Stroking Bernardini

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Who would you like him to beat? He can only run against who shows up. And you're Scrappy T analogy is absolutely ridiculous. You have to be kidding, how can you possibly compare the two?

So you are telling me that you don't think Scrappy T would have won the Preakness by open lengths if Afleet Alex would have broken down 200 yards in?

After reading all of these posts about Bernardini today, I guess I would like him to beat every living horse on the planet "backwards while towing the starting gate" (I'm paraphrasing from another post)

Let's go back and remember Bellamy Road from last year.

Remember after his allowance win and Wood Memorial how people were talking?

This is the same type situation.

Bellamy Road beat the hell out of very suspect competition in those two races, and all of a sudden he was a GD world beater.

While Flower Alley just scrapped up to win the piss poor Lanes End at Turfway, and then he wins the Jim Dandy/Travers and gets second in the BCC to Saint Liam.

I haven't heard anyone say that Flower Alley is the second coming of Christ, where are those posts?

I mean, he beat Bellamy Road in the Travers. Who was the best horse since god damned Eclipse himself.

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His races were nowhere near as tough as Barabro's KD and Florida Derby. They were nowhere near as tough as the 2 examples by Hurricane Run and the world's best bred horse, Deep Impact.


Please, Bernardini needs to pass real tests.

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unlike yourself, it appears, many of us have a grasp of the quality and depth of a race. therefore Bernardini needs to face a higher class and fitter competition than he has thus far.

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we'll just have to see who runs in the Travers in order to determine the quality of the field. i mean, people are pounding their chests that Bernardini is the greatest since sliced bread and he beaten nothing but weak, or tired fields. let's just see how his campaign plays out before we say he's better than Bobby which he is clearly NOT at this point.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I know you're right. I see it more as some people on here just like hating on horses. Nothing is ever good enough, but I should have seen this coming. Again I ask, where would you like him to run, but never mind, I can see this going nowhere.

Shoot, I'm not hating on him at all. That little horse has done what he is supposed to like clockwork and I believe he is a really good 3 year old, the best we have right now.

What I was alluding to is the exclamations of greatness that are automatically thrown on this little guy's shoulders.

How can he possibly live up to people already crowning him as the likely winner of the JCGC, Travers, BCC, and HOTY?

Wouldn't you veer towards caution when dealing with the talent of three year old colts without much battle experience?

It is unfair to the horse to make him out to be some amazing talent that just sprouted up out of the ground just because he won two races over suspect competition.

When a horse wins like he did on Saturday, that doesn't tell me they are great. It tells me that there wasn't anything there to test him, and I'll give him credit for doing what he was supposed to do. If it happens that there isn't anything to test him for the rest of his career, then so be it. And if he does that number on the rest of the fields he faces, then he might just be great. But let us see what happens.

Let me ask you this, are you quick to give the label of greatness to a horse like Suave with his run in the Washington Park HCP on Saturday. He basically did the same thing to that field and broke the record to boot. Beating a multi-millionare and multiple Grade 1 winner in the process.

Is Suave great, and going to go the rest of the season undefeated and win HOTY off of his waltz around Arlington Park?

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You're just speculating a lot. Who knows who would have won the Preakness last year if Afleet Alex went down, because he didn't. You could say that about every race, if so and so went down, who would win? Obviously Flower Alley got better as the year went on, and Bellamy Road is a very nice horse. 2nd in the Travers, to a very good Flower Alley, especially off that layoff. But all of that doesn't matter, no one is talking about Bellamy Road, Flower Alley or Scrappy T. The topic is Bernardini, and he is a very special colt. He's beating whoever he runs against for fun, and will continue to.

Of course Bellamy Road is a nice horse. I never said he wasn't

What he is not is a Triple Crown winner, which is what seemed to be expected of him after last years romp in the Wood.

Just like you expect Bernardini to "beat whoever he runs agains for fun continually."

What happens when he doesn't do this, do you then just determine that he is a "nice horse" instead of "a very special colt?"