What Will Be Obvious After Tonite

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Poor decisions? How about living in trailers in twister country? Huh? Why don't we just ignore their problems too? That's Socialism(helping them.)Geedubbya got real generous when he saw their torn up trailers.All the sudden he turned a part-time Socialist and said "The Government can help too." Capitalism would be to round them up,and tell them they are now fkd.Time to rake leafs for your rich doctor dad......Hurry up,two or three people on this block need leafs raked up.

What did you do to help the victims of Katrina out? When Hurricane Katrina hit, I did as much charity work as I possibly could at the time. My honor club at my college got as many toys and goods (food etc.) as we possibly could to send to them. I think the federal government should donate money to organizations to help people because the organizations will most likely know how to distribute the funds better. I don't have a problem with that when a natural disaster occurs. I don't think the government should directly give money to the people. I have no problem in giving people money that deserve it. It's just there are a lot of people that don't deserve it. People that need to get off their asses, work, and make better decisions (i.e. universal health care and welfare)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

What did you do to help the victims of Katrina out? When Hurricane Katrina hit, I did as much charity work as I possibly could at the time. My honor club at my college got as many toys and goods (food etc.) as we possibly could to send to them. I think the federal government should donate money to organizations to help people because the organizations will most likely know how to distribute the funds better. I don't have a problem with that when a natural disaster occurs. I don't think the government should directly give money to the people. I have no problem in giving people money that deserve it. It's just there are a lot of people that don't deserve it. People that need to get off their asses, work, and make better decisions (i.e. universal health care and welfare)

Conservatives always love private charities.It's a way to say "I hate the Government.I hate to pay my taxes." Here is a cracker...Get better.It's a way to deal with the guilt from knowing your a selfish bitch.Almost all people who are for the tax cuts for the rich are huge fans of private charities.Makes them feel better even though they know inside just how selfish they are.If you gave a **** about those people in Katrina,then they would of had National Healthcare.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Conservatives always love private charities.It's a way to say "I hate the Government.I hate to pay my taxes." Here is a cracker...Get better.It's a way to deal with the guilt from knowing your a selfish bitch.Almost all people who are for the tax cuts for the rich are huge fans of private charities.Makes them feel better even though they know inside just how selfish they are.If you gave a **** about those people in Katrina,then they would of had National Healthcare.

Most of them had/have medicaid.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Most of them had/have medicaid.

I thought that you were a Republican?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Most of them had/have medicaid.

Not people working paycheck to paycheck(and using every penny for bills.)The kinds of people Danzig and Romney think are partying away drinking 40 ounce malt liquor instead of buying healthcare.Fact is they probably needed every bit to pay their bills.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

A lot of you consider yourself Christians (even if you don't attend church regularly.)I just want to say that Christ said it's pretty important how you treat the least among you.The least wasteful way to do that is National Healthcare.Nobody is gunna buy crack with it.Nobody is gunna be acting lazy while doing it(they have to get up and go to the doctor.)Nobody is gunna want to use it.They will use it when they have to.It's a lot better than giving checks out to be used in any way they want.There are only 2 reasons to be against it:

1)selfishnous

2)dislike of the poor

Like I said,it's a predominantly Christian country,.So,it would appear people simply ignore their own religion.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

A lot of you consider yourself Christians (even if you don't attend church regularly.)I just want to say that Christ said it's pretty important how you treat the least among you.The least wasteful way to do that is National Healthcare.Nobody is gunna buy crack with it.Nobody is gunna be acting lazy while doing it(they have to get up and go to the doctor.)Nobody is gunna want to use it.They will use it when they have to.It's a lot better than giving checks out to be used in any way they want.There are only 2 reasons to be against it:

1)selfishnous

2)dislike of the poor

Like I said,it's a predominantly Christian country,.So,it would appear people simply ignore their own religion.

i think you've gone on a tangent with this post. and this type of argument reminds me of the typical 'if you don't like ___, then leave the country'...or when a program looks like it won't pass, so people are accused of not wanting to help the children. or when bush said if you're not for it, you're against it. but then you also argue that if someone questions polytrack, they don't care about a horses safety, so at least you're consistent.

like i said, posts ago, no doubt improvements could be made. i just don't think a national healthcare system as proposed by hillary would be a solution. i would rather see a solution to the problem, then a program along the lines of social security.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think you've gone on a tangent with this post. and this type of argument reminds me of the typical 'if you don't like ___, then leave the country'...or when a program looks like it won't pass, so people are accused of not wanting to help the children. or when bush said if you're not for it, you're against it. but then you also argue that if someone questions polytrack, they don't care about a horses safety, so at least you're consistent.

like i said, posts ago, no doubt improvements could be made. i just don't think a national healthcare system as proposed by hillary would be a solution. i would rather see a solution to the problem, then a program along the lines of social security.

Well,I don't even know if it implies to you(Christianity.) I do think people who are against universal healthcare are against it due to the 2 reasons I mentioned(don't like the poor,or are simply selfish.)Christ warned against both.The reason I bring it up is because this religion is constantly brought up during an election year.I just think people accent only the parts of the religion they like.I think people against universal healthcare are on the exact opposite side Christ would take(based on pretty much everything he said.)Really though......o.k.,look,we are paying twice as much per person(compared to other industrialized nations) for our care.Do you really think we are getting our moneysworth here?If it's not all mainly due to lawsuits,and defensive medicine,or waiting lists (in other countries)then we have a huge problem here.There is no way this hi cost of care can continue.Regardless of whether we have universal care or not,we have to start spending what other countries do per person(half what we spend.) It's not a choice.Baby boomers are gunna start retiring.The price of medical care will have to be controlled.There simply won't be enough people paying payroll taxes to keep up with the medical costs of the country.It doesn't add up.They aren't gunna raise taxes on the wealthy.So,what are they gunna do?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Not people working paycheck to paycheck(and using every penny for bills.)The kinds of people Danzig and Romney think are partying away drinking 40 ounce malt liquor instead of buying healthcare.Fact is they probably needed every bit to pay their bills.

tony and i were like that for years. we struggled for a long time after we got married. money was tight, paycheck to paycheck just like you wrote. but we had insurance. it was never given a second thought, and never considered as anything other than an absolute necessity.
you hear a lot of talk about those withou coverage--but how many of the people without coverage truly have no alternative? how many without private insurance are covered thru the medical plans already in place?

[Mortimer]

^^^MILT site shut down.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Conservatives always love private charities.It's a way to say "I hate the Government.I hate to pay my taxes." Here is a cracker...Get better.It's a way to deal with the guilt from knowing your a selfish bitch.Almost all people who are for the tax cuts for the rich are huge fans of private charities.Makes them feel better even though they know inside just how selfish they are.If you gave a **** about those people in Katrina,then they would of had National Healthcare.

I don't get tax cuts from what I donated because I don't work right now.

And I think the selfish thing is the other way around. I think it is selfish to ask hard working American people to pay more in taxes so those who haven't worked enough in life or made poor decisions can have universal health care.

How would Universal Health Care have helped them rebuild their homes? That has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. Again, you didn't do any volunteer work for the Katrina victims I take it. I not only gave my money, but I gave my time as well.