Israel suspending air bombing

Originally Posted by pgardn

Using buildings full of children to fire from is the act of ANIMALS. They Know Israel will target their missiles.

Great so they are animals. I agree. What does that make somebody that kills innocent people though. I'll tell you, animals. Why doesn't Israel go in and root them out? I will tell you why, because they are cowards that feel the life of innocent people is worth less than members of their own army.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Great so they are animals. I agree. What does that make somebody that kills innocent people though. I'll tell you, animals. Why doesn't Israel go in and root them out? I will tell you why, because they are cowards that feel the life of innocent people is worth less than members of their own army.

Utter BS. They rooted them out 20 years ago and they came right back. It did NOT work. Israel really needs to LEVEL 20 miles of Southern Lebanon and declare it a dead zone. No people enter, no military from the UN or anywhere else. Enter the zone and you are taken out by the UN patrolling outside the zone. If the UN cant do this, then Israel and the US will oversee the 20 mile zone.
If Hezbollah continues to use longer range rockets, make the zone wider.

Just stinkin level it. Get everyone out and destroy everything. Syria did it exactly this to an entire city that opposed their regime except they did not let anyone leave.

Originally Posted by pgardn

Utter BS. They rooted them out 20 years ago and they came right back. It did NOT work. Israel really needs to LEVEL 20 miles of Southern Lebanon and declare it a dead zone. No people enter, no military from the UN or anywhere else. Enter the zone and you are taken out by the UN patrolling outside the zone. If the UN cant do this, then Israel and the US will oversee the 20 mile zone.
If Hezbollah continues to use longer range rockets, make the zone wider.

Just stinkin level it. Get everyone out and destroy everything. Syria did it exactly this to an entire city that opposed their regime except they did not let anyone leave.

Why is the US, my country, doing anything? You want to waste more of my tax dolar overseeing a zone so two groups of Stone Age people can kill each other. No thanks. It is bad enough my money is given to Israel when people in my own military are underpaid and need better health insurance.

Please explain to me what the US gets out of helping Israel anyway. Answer. Nothing.

Are you an American or an Israeli? Where is your allegiance?

Originally Posted by boldruler

Why is the US, my country, doing anything? You want to waste more of my tax dolar overseeing a zone so two groups of Stone Age people can kill each other. No thanks. It is bad enough my money is given to Israel when people in my own military are underpaid and need better health insurance.

Please explain to me what the US gets out of helping Israel anyway. Answer. Nothing.

Are you an American or an Israeli? Where is your allegiance?

Its not all about what the US gets. I wish we would do more in Africa. If you think everything we do should be done just to benifit our country, you and I are on a completely different page and the "conversation" need not go on.

I support Israel as an American citizen because it is one piece of land in that entire region where the people treat each other humanely. I believe in the rule of law, individual rights, and is a democracy. You dont like these ideas?

Costs a lot less money to make a dead zone.

OK. So lets say a Canadian terrorist group supported by the CAndian government starts lobbing missiles at where you live in NY. Just to kill civilians. You dont want air strikes immediately? BS.

Originally Posted by pgardn

Its not all about what the US gets. I wish we would do more in Africa. If you think everything we do should be done just to benifit our country, you and I are on a completely different page and the "conversation" need not go on.

I support Israel as an American citizen because it is one piece of land in that entire region where the people treat each other humanely. I believe in the rule of law, individual rights, and is a democracy. You dont like these ideas?

Costs a lot less money to make a dead zone.

OK. So lets say a Canadian terrorist group supported by the CAndian government starts lobbing missiles at where you live in NY. Just to kill civilians. You dont want air strikes immediately? BS.

Costs a lot less money? Why is it costing me any money? I am all for my tax dollar going to Africa or any country in the form of humanitarian aid, but why is billions, nearly 100 billion of US money buying a military for another country? Nobody can ever seem to answer that question. Is Israel incapable of raising taxes for their own military, or should the working class guy in america pay more taxes so Israeli's can pay less?

Stop with your hypotheticals, I live in the real world. These Stone Age people have been fighting for thousands of years and it will never end. Enough with using my tax dollar for a country that lives in the Stone Ages. It is bad enough my tax dollar is wasted in Iraq for nothing. Israel is the same thing, billions wasted for nothing.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Its not all about what the US gets. I wish we would do more in Africa. If you think everything we do should be done just to benifit our country, you and I are on a completely different page and the "conversation" need not go on.

I support Israel as an American citizen because it is one piece of land in that entire region where the people treat each other humanely. I believe in the rule of law, individual rights, and is a democracy. You dont like these ideas?

Costs a lot less money to make a dead zone.

OK. So lets say a Canadian terrorist group supported by the CAndian government starts lobbing missiles at where you live in NY. Just to kill civilians. You dont want air strikes immediately? BS.

Pgardn,
1) I agree that Africa is a huge humanitarian concern, however, not on topic.
Maybe we should start a seperate thread to discuss that situation.
2) Lebanon had a democraticly elected government as well as Israel. I don't think they treat others in the region humanely. Seems to me that their treatment of Palistinians and now, Lebanese blows a big hole in that arguement.
3) Dead zones are not less costly. Even if that geographic feat could be accomplishished without a permanent occupation, the other "costs", diplomatic, strategic, and economic remain huge.
4) Canadians? Let's not degrade the topic with hypothetical bs. Stick to reality please.

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Pgardn,
1) I agree that Africa is a huge humanitarian concern, however, not on topic.
Maybe we should start a seperate thread to discuss that situation.
2) Lebanon had a democraticly elected government as well as Israel. I don't think they treat others in the region humanely. Seems to me that their treatment of Palistinians and now, Lebanese blows a big hole in that arguement.
3) Dead zones are not less costly. Even if that geographic feat could be accomplishished without a permanent occupation, the other "costs", diplomatic, strategic, and economic remain huge.
4) Canadians? Let's not degrade the topic with hypothetical bs. Stick to reality please.

1. NOt on topic, but it answers BR's do it only for the US.
2. The democratically elected government is full of terrorists which then disqualifies them as a country that follows the rule of Law. Because terrorists follow no law.
3. Level may be the wrong word. No one in, monitored by satellites is very doable. Anything in the zone is immediately taken out.
4. Some people show no empathy towards others; if an example involving them directly is mandatory for understanding, I will most certainly use it.

I am going to ask this for the 100th time, because nobody ever can seem to answer it

Why does Israel need tax dollars from the US to have a military? Should the US taxpayer pay more in taxes so Israeli's can pay less?


I love how everyone thinks people don't like another country because they ask rational questions.