Giants

[King Glorious]

You are taught in Pop Warner football that when a field goal can't beat you, you don't let a man get behind you. I guess Ellis Hobbs never played Pop Warner.

The Giants deserved to win. They took it to the Pats from the start. They played with more hunger and desire and purpose and earned the win. They played as well as they could play and got a couple of breaks and got the win. Anyone that doesn't see that they got a few breaks just doesn't want to see it. Samuels had both hands on a ball that easily could have been intercepted and the game would have been over. The Pats fell on a fumble and got it taken away inside the Giants 20 that could have really changed the whole game. Eli was extremely close to be called in the grasp on that miracle play to Tyree. But none of those things happened. Those are the breaks. Giants won it. The Pats didn't lose it.

I know some are going to say that the Pats choked. I don't agree with that. Choking is when you start making uncharacteristic mistakes. Start turning the ball over, dropping passes, committing silly penalties...those are mistakes. The Giants just took it from them. And to think, Coughlin was very close to not making to this season.

Eli is the real deal. The Giants should trade Shockey.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Eli is the real deal. The Giants should trade Shockey.

good point..notice how much better that offense runs without him

and I bet Eli would say the same thing

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by GBBob

good point..notice how much better that offense runs without him

and I bet Eli would say the same thing

Their passing game may be slightly better with Shockey. Their running game though is far worse with him in the game, so terrible in fact, that they would usually put him in for passing plays and take him out for running plays. You didn't need to be videotaping the offensive coordinator's signals on the sideline to be able to tell if it was going to be a run or pass when you could just check to see whether or not Shockey was in the game.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Eli is the real deal. The Giants should trade Shockey.

agreed. the 2 guys that filled in did an excellent job. if nothing else better blockers and made their share of catches in that run to the championship.

[horseofcourse]

There is nothing better than Darth Sweatshirt walking off the field losing in the postseason. I loved it!! Great effort by the Giants. I honestly think they are a better team. The Patriots were not the same team their last 10 games that they were the first half of the season. They were able to still win, but the complete and utter domination was gone. Great game.

[MaTH716]

I am so happy that they are the champs. They beat them in the most important game, but if they played them 10 times I think that they would lose 7 of them. Of course that doesn't matter now and nobody can take away what they accomplished.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I know some are going to say that the Pats choked. I don't agree with that. Choking is when you start making uncharacteristic mistakes. Start turning the ball over, dropping passes, committing silly penalties...those are mistakes. The Giants just took it from them. And to think, Coughlin was very close to not making to this season.

They did have some pretty stupid penalties. It's been a long time since I've seen the Pats jump that many times in one game. They usually don't make those mistakes.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

They did have some pretty stupid penalties. It's been a long time since I've seen the Pats jump that many times in one game. They usually don't make those mistakes.

Although 4 penalties for 36 yards isn't exactly crippling to a team.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Although 4 penalties for 36 yards isn't exactly crippling to a team.

The refs were letting them play so it was only the stupid stuff that was getting called. It certainly didn't cost them the game but it was uncharacteristic to see such a disciplined football team false starting in such a big game.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The refs were letting them play so it was only the stupid stuff that was getting called. It certainly didn't cost them the game but it was uncharacteristic to see such a disciplined football team false starting in such a big game.

I felt it was one of the best games I've ever seen. And that was one reason...they didn't call holding every other play or interference or illegal chucks or any of that junk. They called some obvious...shirt grabbing holds and the false starts which you have to but I enjoyed the only 9 penalties called. It was to me a really fun game to watch as usually these non rooting interest games I tend to get bored with...not last night.