YET another LOCK goes down due to excessive whipping

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pgardn

If you lose form while running a race you(a human) does not necessarily run crooked, but you definitely do not run as fast. It is extremely difficult to focus on form when you are really tired. But if you dont, you lose turnover rate as well as stride length.

Again I intrude, but I like working with kids
in track and cross country as I loved both.
Damn difficult.

glad you brought this up.

i've been going to the gym, and have started jogging--attempting to work my way up to just jogging, and no walking. right now i usually walk an eighth, and run at LEAST a quarter mile at a time, usually a half mile-then walk another 1/8th...usually go at least three miles to three and a half in that manner. the other day i had a great workout, a ton of running. felt great. the next day i struggled. is that usually how it is? i haven't run track in years, so i don't have a coach to help me out...

any hints would be appreciated.

[slotdirt]

Danzig - it's called DOMS - Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness. Our resident PT could probably help explain it better than I can. Anywho, sometimes you feel great after exercise, then feel like your ass got kicked the next day or three.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Danzig - it's called DOMS - Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness. Our resident PT could probably help explain it better than I can. Anywho, sometimes you feel great after exercise, then feel like your ass got kicked the next day or three.

That's why you need to "milkshake" yourself.

Originally Posted by golfer

That's why you need to "milkshake" yourself.

Actually I tried this about 3 times
with sodium bicarb.

Look at my notes and no real diff in times
in races or the way I felt. The studies
say it works for ultra runners. I never touched
that level of self sacrifice.

[Danzig]

thanks guys! i'm hoping to eventually lose the walking altogether. we shall see.

[TheSpyder]

I once trained and ran a marathon so I know what you're saying. May want to get a book. I would have te same sort of thing and it's lactate acid build up after a hard work. The best thing I found was to alternate from fast pace to slow pace days. The running/walking you're refering to is called interval training. May want to check this out:
http://planetultramarathon.wordpress...tempo-running/

Originally Posted by Danzig

glad you brought this up.

i've been going to the gym, and have started jogging--attempting to work my way up to just jogging, and no walking. right now i usually walk an eighth, and run at LEAST a quarter mile at a time, usually a half mile-then walk another 1/8th...usually go at least three miles to three and a half in that manner. the other day i had a great workout, a ton of running. felt great. the next day i struggled. is that usually how it is? i haven't run track in years, so i don't have a coach to help me out...

any hints would be appreciated.