Gasol A Laker!

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Do you actually watch basketball?

Yes...READ what I wrote. The Bulls would SMOKE that team, but the skills of the players match up pretty close to those Bulls players.....Do I have to detail this for you?

[SentToStud]

No one would mistake Lamar Odom for Pippen. Brad Sellers or Orlando Woolridge, maybe.

[Scav]

Jordan and Bryant are the same player, except Jordan was better, quicker

Pippen and Oden are both slashers, both can hit the 3 and both rebound. Both can also control the ball. Good passers

Walton is probably the one far out there. But is solid from 18 in like Grant, can rebound, and hit the three once in a while, like Kukoc

Fisher is probably better then Kerr and BJ Armstrong. Both were good floor generals and leaders, all three find a way to get the ball into the studs hands, while all three hit clutch shots when needed

Cartwright was solid from about 10 in, and Bynum is getting there. Both rebound and can take up the others big.

Gasol is probably closer to Kukoc then Cartwright

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Scav

Jordan and Bryant are the same player, except Jordan was better, quicker

Pippen and Oden are both slashers, both can hit the 3 and both rebound. Both can also control the ball. Good passers

Walton is probably the one far out there. But is solid from 18 in like Grant, can rebound, and hit the three once in a while, like Kukoc

Fisher is probably better then Kerr and BJ Armstrong. Both were good floor generals and leaders, all three find a way to get the ball into the studs hands, while all three hit clutch shots when needed

Cartwright was solid from about 10 in, and Bynum is getting there. Both rebound and can take up the others big.

Gasol is probably closer to Kukoc then Cartwright

Did you just say that Jordan and Bryant are the same player, but Jordan was better and quicker!!! Good lord--you can do this with anyone. Lets see here......Paul Pierce and Jordan are the same player but Jordan was better and quicker....Melo and Pippen are the same player, but Pippen was better etc etc. This list can go on and on and on. Take any slasher in the NBA and you can compare their skill set with any other slasher. But when it comes to talent, the Lakers are no where near the level the Bulls were at.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Did you just say that Jordan and Bryant are the same player, but Jordan was better and quicker!!! Good lord--you can do this with anyone. Lets see here......Paul Pierce and Jordan are the same player but Jordan was better and quicker....Melo and Pippen are the same player, but Pippen was better etc etc. This list can go on and on and on. Take any slasher in the NBA and you can compare their skill set with any other slasher. But when it comes to talent, the Lakers are no where near the level the Bulls were at.

Did you not see Michael Jordan play? Bryant has the EXACT same game as him. There is no difference in the type of game they play, on both sides of the court. Jordan was just better at him but not by much.

Paul Pierce to Jordan, OH MY, MELO to Jordan, OH MY.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

Did you not see Michael Jordan play? Bryant has the EXACT same game as him. There is no difference in the type of game they play, on both sides of the court. Jordan was just better at him but not by much.

Paul Pierce to Jordan, OH MY, MELO to Jordan, OH MY.

Except Jordan played defense on a regular basis whereas Kobe plays on occcasion.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Except Jordan played defense on a regular basis whereas Kobe plays on occcasion.

Kobe plays at two levels, the good level and the need a stop level. He also steps up defensively when he gets challenged like Jordan used to. I used to love watching him play D against Detroit and New York, he would just shut people down.

[whodey17]

Kobe is nowhere near the skill level of Jordan. Of course their skill set is going to be the same, THEY PLAY THE SAME POSTION - DUH. There are tons of players in the NBA with the same skill sets of Jordan and Kobe, but the talent is what makes the difference. Jordan made everyone around him better--Kobe hasnt not reached that point in his career and probably never will.

[Scav]

My one sports regret was not seeing Jordan more live. the only game I ever went to was in the 88-89 playoffs against the Knicks. And the old Stadium isn't like the UC where there isn't a bad seat in the joint, I was only 10, and couldn't see a damn thing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

Yes...READ what I wrote. The Bulls would SMOKE that team, but the skills of the players match up pretty close to those Bulls players.....Do I have to detail this for you?

Odom vs. Pippen? Pippen is in or going to be in the HOF mostly as a great defender who had good transition skills. Odom rarely bothers with defense.

Kukoc should not be in the Grant/Rodman group as he was a totally different type of player than th other 2. Grant was a rebounder and post defender. Rodman was a rebounder and versitile defender to the extreme. Kukoc was a perimeter shooter who rarely played post defense and was a poor rebounder for his size. Walton is a match with Kukoc perhaps but isnt nearly the scorer he was though a better passer. Ariza is not compatable with any of these guys

Bj/Kerr combo vs Fischer is not too bad

Cartwright was an immobile, traditional center with a good touch and passable post defense. Bynum is an athletic, mobile type of modern center. Gasol is not really a center.

Jordan/Kobe is ok

2 out of 5?

[whodey17]

My favorite thing to watch when Rodman played was the way he guarded Shaq. Amazing that a 6'8 guy totally stopped Shaq. It was awesome.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Odom vs. Pippen? Pippen is in or going to be in the HOF mostly as a great defender who had good transition skills. Odom rarely bothers with defense.

Kukoc should not be in the Grant/Rodman group as he was a totally different type of player than th other 2. Grant was a rebounder and post defender. Rodman was a rebounder and versitile defender to the extreme. Kukoc was a perimeter shooter who rarely played post defense and was a poor rebounder for his size. Walton is a match with Kukoc perhaps but isnt nearly the scorer he was though a better passer. Ariza is not compatable with any of these guys

Bj/Kerr combo vs Fischer is not too bad

Cartwright was an immobile, traditional center with a good touch and passable post defense. Bynum is an athletic, mobile type of modern center. Gasol is not really a center.

Jordan/Kobe is ok

2 out of 5?

Did you just say that Cartwright had good touch? Come on now....

I'll agree regarding the Grant/Rodman debate, but Walton is Kukoc

I am going to sit on the Pippen/Oden comparsion, I was never a fan of Pippen, thought he was a douche bag thus I probably devalue him, especially defensively

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Scav

Did you just say that Cartwright had good touch? Come on now....

I'll agree regarding the Grant/Rodman debate, but Walton is Kukoc

I am going to sit on the Pippen/Oden comparsion, I was never a fan of Pippen, thought he was a douche bag thus I probably devalue him, especially defensively

Cartwright shot 52% from the field for his career and 77% from the free throw line for his career. Those numbers are pretty darn good.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Cartwright shot 52% from the field for his career and 77% from the free throw line for his career. Those numbers are pretty darn good.

HE WAS 7'2 and didn't have to jump to dunk because his knuckles dragged when he walked. 52% aint **** when you are that big.....

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Scav

HE WAS 7'2 and didn't have to jump to dunk because his knuckles dragged when he walked. 52% aint **** when you are that big.....

Oh good lord. You really have no clue do you. Wilt (The greatest center to ever play the game) shot 54% from the field in his career. Just because you are tall doesnt make it any easier.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Oh good lord. You really have no clue do you. Wilt (The greatest center to ever play the game) shot 54% from the field in his career. Just because you are tall doesnt make it any easier.

All Cartright did was block hook shots and dunks. Wilt had face up game, at least from what I have seen on ESPN Classic

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

HE WAS 7'2 and didn't have to jump to dunk because his knuckles dragged when he walked. 52% aint **** when you are that big.....

He was not 7'2". He had a nice face up jumper from the baseline.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He was not 7'2". He had a nice face up jumper from the baseline.

He's no Bob McAdoo

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He was not 7'2". He had a nice face up jumper from the baseline.

How would he have a fade away, HE NEVER LEFT HIS FEET.

Now I have a mean fade away.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

Did you just say that Cartwright had good touch? Come on now....

I'll agree regarding the Grant/Rodman debate, but Walton is Kukoc

I am going to sit on the Pippen/Oden comparsion, I was never a fan of Pippen, thought he was a douche bag thus I probably devalue him, especially defensively

Cartwright was an excellent mid range shooter. That was his whole offensive game. He is like a black Ilgaukaus. Walton is not Kukoc. The only they have in common is that they are both white. Walton is a pass first player who plays a little d and tries to play a role. Kukoc was strictly a one dimensional shooter. Pippen may have been a douche bag but he was a tremendous defender.