O/U: how many times

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

a guy who has zero chance of getting the GOP nomination?

We established that fact about 8 pages ago....

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

We established that fact about 8 pages ago....

There are predators circling everywhere so I hesitate to enter this dialogue.
but...

KRIM..Will you vote in the General Election?...I'm sure you have figured out by now that Paul has slighty less than zero chance to get elected, so will you support a Dem against your hated Darth McCain..

for what it's worth..I've never voted republican, but if McCain beats Oprah Pantsuit, I won't be crushed

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by GBBob

There are predators circling everywhere so I hesitate to enter this dialogue.
but...

KRIM..Will you vote in the General Election?...I'm sure you have figured out by now that Paul has slighty less than zero chance to get elected, so will you support a Dem against your hated Darth McCain..

for what it's worth..I've never voted republican, but if McCain beats Oprah Pantsuit, I won't be crushed

Eek... I wish we had some better choices.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Eek... I wish we had some better choices.

but you're a conservative..beauty is in the eye of the beholder

i'm pretty happy with both..well..except Hilary is unelectable..slight problem

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Eek... I wish we had some better choices.

^^ ^ Stepped in DitzInMay's frog trap...gnawed off own foot.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Seriously. So since you won't be able to vote for Paul, will you vote for McCain?

Yes...

I cringed typing that, but yes, I'll vote for McCain if he's the GOP candidate.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Out of curiosity, why would you vote for someone that you don't like? Is it just because they are the GOP candidate? What if say a convicted pedophile was the GOP candidate, would they get your vote also?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I just don't understand that rationale. And since you asked earlier, I haven't made up my mind yet, but I am planning on voting for Hillary if she makes it that far. If it's between Obama and MCCain, I'll take Obama because McCain scares me frankly.

Because it will be probably be him against Hillary or Obama and I dislike those two (on where they stand - not race or gender ) even more. If a convicted pedophile was running, I would say that the chances are highly unlikely that I would vote for that person regardless of whether or not that person was the GOP candidate.

The only alternative to my dilemna is to avoid voting at all. I just can't do that, though... I believe that if one doesn't vote, then that person has no room to complain about the current state of affairs. Voting is really our only way to 'voice our opinion' and I think it's scary that more Americans don't care.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Thanks for answering. Like I said, I wasn't trying to be snotty. just curious and you make a good arguement for your case. I agree with your last paragraph.

You didn't sound snotty at all. Now Morty on the other hand...















































His face is next to the word 'snotty' in the dictionary.

[Mortimer]

Ah...a small hydrogen bomb.







Oh well...I'll take it.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Out of curiosity, why would you vote for someone that you don't like? Is it just because they are the GOP candidate? What if say a convicted pedophile was the GOP candidate, would they get your vote also?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I just don't understand that rationale. And since you asked earlier, I haven't made up my mind yet, but I am planning on voting for Hillary if she makes it that far. If it's between Obama and MCCain, I'll take Obama because McCain scares me frankly.

I have a funny feeling that you might disagree with my "Saying they both suck and I'm not voting" comment

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I have a funny feeling that you might disagree with my "Saying they both suck and I'm not voting" comment

No, I won't really disagree. We really do have some bad choices... While I think that being active in an election is very important, I actually thought about not voting myself because I knew Ron Paul didn't stand a chance. But, from my view, I really think it is important to keep McCain out of office. If you wonder why I don't like McCain, all you have to do is watch him singing the "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" tune to the Beach Boys melody. I love peace. Not war, not destruction. Peace. And the fact that the potential future president of the US sung that makes me sick.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by GBBob

There are predators circling everywhere so I hesitate to enter this dialogue.
but...

KRIM..Will you vote in the General Election?...I'm sure you have figured out by now that Paul has slighty less than zero chance to get elected, so will you support a Dem against your hated Darth McCain..

for what it's worth..I've never voted republican, but if McCain beats Oprah Pantsuit, I won't be crushed

Yes, I will vote. From the look of things, I will be voting for a Dem. I don't like any of the candidates who will be left standing come Nov, but I have to vote for the lesser of the evils. I am really hoping NC will go Dem.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You seemed to miss the question why then. It's like you are arguing that you think the Green Bay Packers would make the best Super Bowl team this year. Only problem is they aren't in the game, so you'd be wasting your time.

hey..wait a minute

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Good luck on Saturday. I would have rather seen the Packers than the Giants myself. But I had to tarnish the Packers good name to make my point.

valid point though

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You seemed to miss the question why then. It's like you are arguing that you think the Green Bay Packers would make the best Super Bowl team this year. Only problem is they aren't in the game, so you'd be wasting your time.

I do not feel like restating my reasons again. Go back, read through the posts, and then you will see for yourself the reasons for keeping this topic going. The main argument is foreign policy.

Why does it really matter who or what we are debating or for what reasons? Having conversations on some deep issues is what is important.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I do not feel like restating my reasons again. Go back, read through the posts, and then you will see for yourself the reasons for keeping this topic going. The main argument is foreign policy.

Why does it really matter who or what we are debating or for what reasons? Having conversations on some deep issues is what is important.

Unfortunately, one thing you'll learn as you get older is that while being principled is always important, compromise is as well. Ralph Nader and Ross Perot are polar examples of how being tied in to an unelectable candidate can hurt your big picture.

I only hope you throw your passion for Ron Paul towards someone running in November. That's why candidates dropping out endorse someone. Saying they both suck and I'm not voting doesn't work

I used to read Ron Paul's own Newsletters
because I had an aquaintance in Houston who thought
they were funny. He really thought they were funny
because he believed they were true. 1980' thru 1990's

I found this stuff on various sites. Its really neat because
almost everything you read about him is so positive on
the internet. No wonder he has made so much money.
He has used this information medium to the max. One
really has to dig. So if you care:

24 May 1996
San Antonio Express-News
English
(Copyright 1996)
A 1992 newsletter by Republican congressional candidate Ron Paul highlighted portrayals of blacks as criminally inclined and lacking sense about top political issues.
Reporting on gang crime in Los Angeles, Paul commented: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."
Paul, a Surfside obstetrician who won the GOP nomination in the 14th District runoff by defeating incumbent Rep. Greg Laughlin, said Wednesday he opposed racism.
He said his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time."
Copyright (c) 1996 National Journal Inc.
A 1992 political newsletter by former Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, included portrayals of African-Americans as inclined toward crime and lacking sense about political issues, the Houston Chronicle reported Thursday. Paul, a former Libertarian Party presidential candidate who defeated Democratic-turned-Republican Rep. Greg Laughlin in the March primary, in November will face Democratic attorney Charles (Lefty) Morris, whose campaign is distributing Paul's writings. Under the headline "Terrorist Update," Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and wrote, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." About blacks in Washington, D.C., Paul wrote, "I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." Paul said Wednesday that his comments came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time," and that he opposes racism.
The Houston Chronicle story linked above contains quotes from a newsletter Mr. Paul put out in the 1980s and 1990s. It includes quotes referring to blacks as crime-prone and "fleet-footed."
Mr. Paul also wrote that "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government" and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.
The Houston Chronicle story linked above contains quotes from a newsletter Mr. Paul put out in the 1980s and 1990s. It includes quotes referring to blacks as crime-prone and "fleet-footed."
Mr. Paul also wrote that "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government" and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.
"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." - Ron Paul, 1992

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." - Ron Paul, 1992


Sorry I mistook pickpocket for fleet-footed blacks.
I knew it was something like that but I could not recall.
And my acquaintance hated Jews so this fit as well.
There is much more. Seek. Damn I wish I had kept
those xeroxed copies I would sent them to you Kentucky.
I am not kidding when I say I have been following this
guy for a long time. Because I could not believe someone
like this could be elected back when I was your age.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I used to read Ron Paul's own Newsletters
because I had an aquaintance in Houston who thought
they were funny. He really thought they were funny
because he believed they were true. 1980' thru 1990's

I found this stuff on various sites. Its really neat because
almost everything you read about him is so positive on
the internet. No wonder he has made so much money.
He has used this information medium to the max. One
really has to dig. So if you care:

24 May 1996
San Antonio Express-News
English
(Copyright 1996)
A 1992 newsletter by Republican congressional candidate Ron Paul highlighted portrayals of blacks as criminally inclined and lacking sense about top political issues.
Reporting on gang crime in Los Angeles, Paul commented: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."
Paul, a Surfside obstetrician who won the GOP nomination in the 14th District runoff by defeating incumbent Rep. Greg Laughlin, said Wednesday he opposed racism.
He said his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time."
Copyright (c) 1996 National Journal Inc.
A 1992 political newsletter by former Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, included portrayals of African-Americans as inclined toward crime and lacking sense about political issues, the Houston Chronicle reported Thursday. Paul, a former Libertarian Party presidential candidate who defeated Democratic-turned-Republican Rep. Greg Laughlin in the March primary, in November will face Democratic attorney Charles (Lefty) Morris, whose campaign is distributing Paul's writings. Under the headline "Terrorist Update," Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and wrote, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." About blacks in Washington, D.C., Paul wrote, "I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." Paul said Wednesday that his comments came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time," and that he opposes racism.
The Houston Chronicle story linked above contains quotes from a newsletter Mr. Paul put out in the 1980s and 1990s. It includes quotes referring to blacks as crime-prone and "fleet-footed."
Mr. Paul also wrote that "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government" and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.
The Houston Chronicle story linked above contains quotes from a newsletter Mr. Paul put out in the 1980s and 1990s. It includes quotes referring to blacks as crime-prone and "fleet-footed."
Mr. Paul also wrote that "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government" and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.
"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." - Ron Paul, 1992

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." - Ron Paul, 1992


Sorry I mistook pickpocket for fleet-footed blacks.
I knew it was something like that but I could not recall.
And my acquaintance hated Jews so this fit as well.
There is much more. Seek. Damn I wish I had kept
those xeroxed copies I would sent them to you Kentucky.
I am not kidding when I say I have been following this
guy for a long time. Because I could not believe someone
like this could be elected back when I was your age.

his backtracking and crawfishing reminds me of huckabee when his 'banish aids victims to the farthest corner' remarks came back to haunt him. perhaps they should join forces, one could be the others running mate. not that it would really help either one. neither has a shot in hell-thankfully.

[Mortimer]

They're ignoring me.












I hate that.






























Perhaps a large explosive device.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I do not feel like restating my reasons again. Go back, read through the posts, and then you will see for yourself the reasons for keeping this topic going. The main argument is foreign policy.

Why does it really matter who or what we are debating or for what reasons? Having conversations on some deep issues is what is important.

i hope you have a swim ring...