Does the Dosage Index matter?

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Just wondering what your take is.....

A.P. Indy Named Chef-de-Race
Posted: 6:58 PM ET

Steven A. Roman, Ph.D., creator of the Dosage Index, has named A.P. Indy an Intermediate/Classic Chef-de-Race. The move acknowledges the Lane’s End sire’s effect on the Thoroughbred breed, and means that descendants of A.P. Indy will have revised Dosage Index figures that reflect the stamina generally contributed by the son of Seattle Slew. The Dosage Index attempts to predict a horse’s aptitude for distance through particularly influential sires in his pedigree.

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com...TOKEN=80788055


http://www.chef-de-race.com/main_menu.htm

Well lets see here....horses out of A.P Indy where able to run before Roman gave A.P Indy such an label, I do not think they will all of a sudden be able to run further.

[cmorioles]

For those not familiar with dosage, I'll post the exact formula on how to calculate it...



Just add erratic dart tosses.

[King Glorious]

No. It doesn't matter. The next time a horse wins that doesn't qualify, they'll just revise the system again to make the horse qualify.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Dosage is absolute hackery.

It greatly delegitimizes pedigree handicapping.

[my miss storm cat]

Obviously i know very little about it but what exactly does a horse have to accomplish to gain the title Chef de Race?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Obviously i know very little about it but what exactly does a horse have to accomplish to gain the title Chef de Race?

It's an arbitrary distinction that is given seemingly randomly and the main reason that dosage is completely useless for any current horses.

The concept that you could apply mathematics to the stallions in a pedigree and gain a reasonable approximation of what sort of horse you will have I think is plausible. The way they go about it though is completely wrong.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Obviously i know very little about it but what exactly does a horse have to accomplish to gain the title Chef de Race?

Sort of what was alluded to here.....after his horse's win big races going long they get added. Frankly, it the ultimate redboarder's guide.

Dosage is an anachronism now that people have become more sophisticated and legitimate techniques ( like speed figures ) are widespread for analyzing a horse's talent.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Look at you two love birds co-existing so peacefully.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Sort of what was alluded to here.....after his horse's win big races going long they get added. Frankly, it the ultimate redboarder's guide.

Dosage is an anachronism now that people have become more sophisticated and legitimate techniques ( like speed figures ) are widespread for analyzing a horse's talent.

A prime example of the fallacy of dosage was Strike The Gold. He had a dosage of about 9.00 ruining Roman's bogus record of no horse winning the Derby with a dosage of over 4 since 1929. What does Roman do? He immediately upgrades STG's sire Alydar's status in his chef de race charts and "Bingo" Strike The Gold has a dosage of 2.70

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Sort of what was alluded to here.....after his horse's win big races going long they get added. Frankly, it the ultimate redboarder's guide..

haha, never thought of it that way but that is precisely what it is.

[Monarchos1]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Well lets see here....horses out of A.P Indy where able to run before Roman gave A.P Indy such an label, I do not think they will all of a sudden be able to run further.

Uh, there are no horses "out of" A.P. Indy.