Curlin and Pyro

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

For the record, I wasn't even saying DaHoss has a bad record.

No, but you started this thread into a downword spiral by calling Pyro "a rat."

While Pyro is FAR from a true superstar - he is the current future book favorite for the Kentucky Derby - and every race of his career so far has been fairly solid.

DaHoss simply called you on your silly attention grabbing comment.

I can tell you this, it's always a good idea to claim off of Asmussen because his barn is based on talent and not magic.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I can tell you this, it's always a good idea to claim off of Asmussen because his barn is based on talent and not magic.

Hey, just because when horses run for Asmussen, Durtrow, Lake, or Jane Vayders, they all grow wings. And then when they claimed away from said trainers, the Wings retract, doesn't mean anything... IT'S ALL TALENT BABY... and maybe a little cobra venom.

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Hey, just because when horses run for Asmussen, Durtrow, Lake, or Jane Vayders, they all grow wings. And then when they claimed away from said trainers, the Wings retract, doesn't mean anything... IT'S ALL TALENT BABY... and maybe a little cobra venom.

Well it's important that these great personalities continue without the worry of being suspended. The sport needs guys like Asmussen and Dutrow to shine on national television in order to attract new fans (rapists, murderers, tax cheats, O.J.) to the game.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Well it's important that these great personalities continue without the worry of being suspended. The sport needs guys like Asmussen and Dutrow to shine on national television in order to attract new fans (rapists, murderers, tax cheats, O.J.) to the game.

Now those 4 personalities are a lil more harsh than girlfriends, wives, cops, and cross-examining lawyers as mentioned earlier I hope Blackthroat?

[Antitrust32]

so, um, hossy, um, do ya have a girlfriend?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

so, um, hossy, um, do ya have a girlfriend?

OOOOOOOOOO!



( He already blew the money on hookers and crack.....too late. )

[Indian Charlie]

how about a boyfriend?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

how about a boyfriend?

I'm way ahead of you on that one. Sorry.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

No, but you started this thread into a downword spiral by calling Pyro "a rat."

While Pyro is FAR from a true superstar - he is the current future book favorite for the Kentucky Derby - and every race of his career so far has been fairly solid.

DaHoss simply called you on your silly attention grabbing comment.

I called the horse a rat. That's what I think of him. So what? If that's something that DaHoss took personal, then I'm sorry it offended him. If that was his invitation to take shots at me, so be it. Even so, I still never suggested that he has a bad record or that mine is better than his.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I called the horse a rat. That's what I think of him.

Based on what?

What performance of his was so bad or so wildly overrated - for him to earn the rat label?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Based on what?

What performance of his was so bad or so wildly overrated - for him to earn the rat label?

I don't think they were bad. I do think they were overrated. Rat for me is a relative term. I just mean below the top level. Pyro has a chance to be a very good horse. He's obviously talented and has the ability to be in the upper ranks of this year's 3yo class. With so many races out there, he should win his share of them and could make a good career for himself. But I feel like he's overrated. I see it every year. Horses that look like the longer they go, the better they'll be. The ones that look like when they get a little bit more distance, they'll run past those same rivals that kept finishing in front of them. But it never seems to happen. I look at the lead-up to the BC Juvenile. In the DRF selections section, more people had Pyro picked over War Pass than the other way around, despite the fact that War Pass had already beaten Pyro twice. They added distance and another turn and War Pass beats him by more. Toss it because of the sloppy track if you want to but the fact remains that on three different tracks (Sar, Bel, Mon), on three different surfaces (good, fast, sloppy), at three different distances (6f, 8f, 8.5f), at one-turn and at two....War Pass has been better than Pyro at each step. Yet if you look at most rankings, you would swear that War Pass is the one that has to catch up to Pyro because of what most people THINK will happen in the future.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I don't think they were bad. I do think they were overrated. Rat for me is a relative term. I just mean below the top level. Pyro has a chance to be a very good horse. He's obviously talented and has the ability to be in the upper ranks of this year's 3yo class.

Perhaps you should add to your signature your definition of terms that vary wildly from what is generally accepted as a definition by most everyone else?

Or, at least qualify it when you use such a term in a way that is inconsistent with how everyone else would use it?

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I called the horse a rat. That's what I think of him. So what? If that's something that DaHoss took personal, then I'm sorry it offended him. If that was his invitation to take shots at me, so be it. Even so, I still never suggested that he has a bad record or that mine is better than his.

I'd like to see this horse in another barn. You would probably end up being vindicated.