IEAH buys into Court Vision

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Cliff's Edge is by the same sire - but has a MUCH inferior female family.

However, he was also MUCH more horse than CV.

You sure about that?

To this point in their career they have very similar credentials. Cliff's Edge didn't run a real fast race at 2 either despite two graded stakes wins.

I stand by my $10k stud fee assessment on Court Vision.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by philcski

You sure about that?

To this point in their career they have very similar credentials. Cliff's Edge didn't run a real fast race at 2 either despite two graded stakes wins.

You are wrong about that. The Cliff's edge got a 101 Beyer in his second to last 2yo start - and a 94 Beyer in his final start - while giving weight all around and racing wide. Both graded stakes wins.

He was already Jerry Brown's Derby horse at this point I believe.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You are wrong about that. The Cliff's edge got a 101 Beyer in his second to last 2yo start - and a 94 Beyer in his final start - while giving weight all around and racing wide. Both graded stakes wins.

He was already Jerry Brown's Derby horse at this point I believe.

It's all about consistancy....and Phil's just trying to keep all of his posts in this thread of equal inaccuracy.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You are wrong about that. The Cliff's edge got a 101 Beyer in his second to last 2yo start - and a 94 Beyer in his final start - while giving weight all around and racing wide. Both graded stakes wins.

He was already Jerry Brown's Derby horse at this point I believe.

If the Beyers were that high I stand corrected, I remembered them both being below 90.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's all about consistancy....and Phil's just trying to keep all of his posts in this thread of equal inaccuracy.

I'm trying hard.

But my point remains the same: Court Vision would be a $10k sire if he retired today.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by philcski

If the Beyers were that high I stand corrected, I remembered them both being below 90.

His 101 Beyer in the Iroquios was the highest ever earned in the history of that race.

Harlan's Holiday's 99 is 2nd. Exploit's 98 is 3rd.

www.drf.com/row/pps/thecliffsedge.pdf

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

His 101 Beyer in the Iroquios was the highest ever earned in the history of that race.

Harlan's Holiday's 99 is 2nd. Exploit's 98 is 3rd.

www.drf.com/row/pps/thecliffsedge.pdf

I know that there's absolutely zero correlation but interesting that two of the highest ML favorites in the history of the Derby topped the list.

[The Bid]

I could be wrong but I believe Master David was sold to South American interests for 35k. May have been Puerto Rico, I dont recall. Whatever it was its a far cry from lexington.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

One of his old owners is a windchime salesman.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

i think i like this horse abit sounds like COURT FOLLY..

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by philcski

But my point remains the same: Court Vision would be a $10k sire if he retired today.

When he retires his fee will be around 1k.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

When he retires his fee will be around 1k.

1k? Nah, I agree with Phil here.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

1k? Nah, I agree with Phil here.

We didn't need any more proof.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

We didn't need any more proof.

What do you think his fee would be if he retired right now?

Perhaps Phil is leaning a little high, but 1k? $7,500 sounds like a good number.

[mp3]

that has turned into a silly thread. Everyone either seems concerned with the pockets of the boys at ieah and there partners or are really jealous. I get the feeling everyone here would probably be happier if he did not work out then if he did. With that being said, they pay 5mm for a derby horse who could very well go favored. What is the ratio of downside to upside. If he wins the derby they are selling to shiek mo for 50m. If he never wins a race again they have 3 to 4 million in stud value. After speaking to Mr. Iavarone today I have a very good understanding of what they did here. Also for reference, he said he bought the piece himself and has not syndicated to any partners. I cant understand how people on this board can doubt guys that have won the types of races they have in such a short period of time. It can only be jealousy. These guys are good for the game and if they can keep just 1 horse out of the hands of the Arabs we are all the better for it....Omar

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You are wrong about that. The Cliff's edge got a 101 Beyer in his second to last 2yo start - and a 94 Beyer in his final start - while giving weight all around and racing wide. Both graded stakes wins.

He was already Jerry Brown's Derby horse at this point I believe.

He was also the morning line favorite for the Derby. Didn't he lose a shoe or two in the Derby as well?

He still ran better than my pick (Master David) who is STILL trying to finish that race.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

He was also the morning line favorite for the Derby. Didn't he lose a shoe or two in the Derby as well?

He still ran better than my pick (Master David) who is STILL trying to finish that race.

He's not only still trying to finish THAT race.....I think he's still trying to finish a $35K claimer at Delta.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He's not only still trying to finish THAT race.....I think he's still trying to finish a $35K claimer at Delta.

Horrible... but true.