IEAH buys into Court Vision

[NTamm1215]

At least they're keeping him with Mott. Also, WinStar is retaining the breeding rights- must have been a real sweetheart deal for them.

NT

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

At least they're keeping him with Mott. Also, WinStar is retaining the breeding rights- must have been a real sweetheart deal for them.

NT

It's not often you get the opportunity to sell a slow horse for a lot of money.

It kind of reminds me of the line from Die Hard " You asked for a miracle....I give you the F.B.I. "

[mp3]

Ieah is not giving up any breeding rights at all. Read the release, horse will stand at winstar and they will manage his book. slow horse??? dont hate the player....or be jealous of them

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by mp3

Ieah is not giving up any breeding rights at all. Read the release, horse will stand at winstar and they will manage his book. slow horse??? dont hate the player....or be jealous of them

He's a slow horse and his races have proven that. Could he improve as a 3YO? Of course....but he better.

Excellent sale by WinStar. Took the money....soon they will want to run....and hide.

[mp3]

so , you are saying this horse has no shot to win a big one????

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by mp3

so , you are saying this horse has no shot to win a big one????

I said nothing of the kind. There are plenty of slow horses out there and any horse can make a big jump from 2 to 3....and Bill Mott is certainly as good a trainer as there is at bringing a horse along.

I think it's funny that many people are knocking other 3YOs, that have already run, as being too slow ( and they may be right ) yet they are already lengths faster than Court Vision and he seems to be held in high regard right now. Personally he reminds me of that slow Patrick Biancone horse from a few years ago ( he actually won a prep at Fair Grounds ). Horses with late bursts of speed often fool people into thinking they are better than they are and they are not only usually too slow but also need very good set ups to get lucky.

Right now there is one very fast and proven horse that is now 3....War Pass. Now, obviously he has real distance question marks, and if he proves not to be able to go long the Classic races are open to a great many horses. However, Court Vision is still much slower than most of those. Could that change? Absolutely, but I highly doubt his chances are commiserate with what was paid for him.

[The Bid]

Scipion, yes very similar. I think he ended up being a highpriced lawn mower

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I said nothing of the kind. There are plenty of slow horses out there and any horse can make a big jump from 2 to 3....and Bill Mott is certainly as good a trainer as there is at bringing a horse along.

I think it's funny that many people are knocking other 3YOs, that have already run, as being too slow ( and they may be right ) yet they are already lengths faster than Court Vision and he seems to be held in high regard right now. Personally he reminds me of that slow Patrick Biancone horse from a few years ago ( he actually won a prep at Fair Grounds ). Horses with late bursts of speed often fool people into thinking they are better than they are and they are not only usually too slow but also need very good set ups to get lucky.

Right now there is one very fast and proven horse that is now 3....War Pass. Now, obviously he has real distance question marks, and if he proves not to be able to go long the Classic races are open to a great many horses. However, Court Vision is still much slower than most of those. Could that change? Absolutely, but I highly doubt his chances are commiserate with what was paid for him.

I agree and I think this is a main part of the reason why horses like Pyro, Tale of Ekati and many others who really haven't done anything dazzling are being considered as serious contenders.

The quality of the Remsen is also a big concern as the three horses who have come back out of it all didn't really look too good.

3rd place finisher Trust N Dustan finished last of six in a N2X at Gulfstream on Saturday as the longest shot on the board.

4th place finisher Big Truck finished fifth of eight in the Hutcheson (G2) at Gulfstream on 1/5 at 9/2

The ill-fated last place finisher Tide Dancer finished seven of eight in the Maryland Juvenile Championship and then broke down in a 25k claimer at Philly.

NT

[The Bid]

He is a slow horse, but the Dutrow factor may bail them out.

No he has no shot MP3

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Bid

He is a slow horse, but the Dutrow factor may bail them out.

No he has no shot MP3

He's staying with Mott.

[The Bid]

Oh he stays with Mott!! Winstar must not have done the deal unless he stayed, I like it.