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Old 01-27-2008, 04:10 PM
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See,PGRDN,you aren't a typical individual.You go out to the track and win bet a race if you get your price etc.Most people aren't like little brats that will turn their nose up at everything until they get their desired plate of mac n' cheese(which momma finally makes them.)
well I can go out to the track and just enjoy the running without a dime on a horse. And I have played pik bets just because its fun for the people I am with.

But they dont understand that when one has to go deep in a race or two, the amount you bet sky rockets. They just like to play. Then they come up with a 400 dollar ticket and get all excited, but they risked 128 bucks to get it.
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:19 PM
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well I can go out to the track and just enjoy the running without a dime on a horse. And I have played pik bets just because its fun for the people I am with.

But they dont understand that when one has to go deep in a race or two, the amount you bet sky rockets. They just like to play. Then they come up with a 400 dollar ticket and get all excited, but they risked 128 bucks to get it.
I take a single in one leg.In the other 2 legs,I force myself to win with just one of my top 2-3 selections in either of those races(people should be able to do this.)So,it gives you 2 races to go deep in.So,it costs $20-$42.Also,it gives you a chance to win the pick 3 twice.

1st ticket....
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1st leg) two or 3 horses I like
2nd leg) 5-7 horses
3rd leg)single

2nd ticket..
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1st leg) 5-7 horses
2nd leg) two or 3 horses I like
3rd leg) single
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:37 PM
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I take a single in one leg.In the other 2 legs,I force myself to win with just one of my top 2-3 selections in either of those races(people should be able to do this.)So,it gives you 2 races to go deep in.So,it costs $20-$42.Also,it gives you a chance to win the pick 3 twice.

1st ticket....
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1st leg) two or 3 horses I like
2nd leg) 5-7 horses
3rd leg)single

2nd ticket..
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1st leg) 5-7 horses
2nd leg) two or 3 horses I like
3rd leg) single
In the race you single do you find a horse you really think is going to win against an obvious public favorite? I think so many people have a key race to single that involves a heavy favorite that the pool will be diluted with so many winners.
Or do you go deep on a heavy favorite race hoping the favorite falters but taking him to back it up?
Just seems to me that one cant do what everyone else is doing because of pool dilution.

I think knowing which race to single is very important. It cant be the race everyone and his mother single. It would seem this single would have to involve a race that have a number of possible winners as deemed by the public, but you have a clear reason to take one of them.
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Old 01-27-2008, 08:13 PM
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Can't be the dominant favorite.The last race at Anita often has a m32 claiming race,and they really are not that difficult,but there are usually 3 - 5 horses that have a shot.There are usually another 7 or 8 horses from trainers that don't win.To answer your question,it has to be a horse that has atleast 1 horse being played equally against it.It can be one of the 2 top choices,but not anything less than 8/5 or 9/5.That week,I think I had a 6/1,a 4/1,two 5/2 shots, a 2/1 etc. Any of that will work. Out here,we have cheaters,and they are gunna shove horses down your throat.You can hope for like 4/1 etc.,but they will get bet down(and win) at 5/2 etc.So,it's really meant as a way to make money off a 5/2 that wins the last race.Everybody needs a bigger price.So,they try to beat Mitchell,Sadler,Mullins etc.,but if they are dropping into a m32cl,then it's usually gunna win.If there is a horse that came close to winning for mcl32,then people will always play that almost as much(or more) as the dropper.Then,the dropper wins.Coming close in m32cl is no match for Sadler dropping something who has had one dull start at straight maiden level.The key is to have a horse or two who have come close to winning at m32cl.They will bet those again.
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Old 01-27-2008, 08:46 PM
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I guess my real problem is I very rarely see 3 or 4 races in a row that are bettable. Im one of the retards that requires certain odds or I wont hit the print ticket on the machine as they enter the gate.

And of course the odds change a bit. Sometimes a whole bunch, which hacks me off to no end. Im lucky because the facility down here has so many open machines with the TV set right in front. Or machines that you can look directly at the track tote. There just are not huge lines like some people describe at other tracks.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:17 PM
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I guess my real problem is I very rarely see 3 or 4 races in a row that are bettable. Im one of the retards that requires certain odds or I wont hit the print ticket on the machine as they enter the gate.

And of course the odds change a bit. Sometimes a whole bunch, which hacks me off to no end. Im lucky because the facility down here has so many open machines with the TV set right in front. Or machines that you can look directly at the track tote. There just are not huge lines like some people describe at other tracks.
Some tracks aren't good for p3/p4.I think one of them was Sunland.One time I looked at a weeks race results there,and a lot of the time it was paying less than the parlay.All I am saying is,out here, I just don't see that many logical horses going off at prices higher than they should be.Horses with a "chance" to win? Sure,but out here the same group of trainers win a ton of the races.So,p3/p4 betting is probably more important out here.
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