We're going to Dubai!

[Exterminator]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I guess it's an easy mistake for someone in the UAE to assume he's an American horse.

That's all I'm saying.

I know he's Canadian but i guess it's an easy assumption.

Oh. I see. But now that I think of it he didn't run much up in Canada. The classics sure, but not much else that I can recall. Not trying to badger you, just trying to understand. Thanks.

[Exterminator]

Sorry, I've also been a little choked to see Manduro as a French horse so much lately.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Exterminator

Sorry, I've also been a little choked to see Manduro as a French horse so much lately.

Where was he from?

[Exterminator]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Where was he from?

Bred in Germany by Monsun.

Question. Does any one know if he was the first German bred to have the highest rating of the year?

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Exterminator

Bred in Germany by Monsun.

Question. Does any one know if he was the first German bred to have the highest rating of the year?

I can imagine he probably is.

I know what you're all saying about where a horse is 'from'. It's a difficult argument. Over here we have plenty of horses bred in America, but if they happened to go back to America and race (for the English trainer), I know I'd refer to the horse as being an English horse.

Both ways work, I suppose.

[brockguy]

cant wait to see Seachange race in Dubai.. She is a class horse.. Can she do what Sunline failed to do??

[Exterminator]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

I can imagine he probably is.

I know what you're all saying about where a horse is 'from'. It's a difficult argument. Over here we have plenty of horses bred in America, but if they happened to go back to America and race (for the English trainer), I know I'd refer to the horse as being an English horse.

Both ways work, I suppose.

Not sure I buy that. If Secretariat was sold at age 4 and moved to France, raced there and came back to the US in the same year, can you imagine him being called a French horse? That would be cause for a riot with hardcore hr fans. The most I can see would be "French-owned and/or trained" imo

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Exterminator

Not sure I buy that. If Secretariat was sold at age 4 and moved to France, raced there and came back to the US in the same year, can you imagine him being called a French horse? That would be cause for a riot with hardcore hr fans. The most I can see would be "French-owned and/or trained" imo

I didn't mean at that sort of age. I was referring to the American bred horses who are sold as yearlings to race in Europe and then go back to America to run a big race (say at the Breeders' Cup). To me (and most people) they are referred to as the European challengers, despite which country they were born.

If a horse has run previously in America and then is sold to race in a different country, that changes things.

It's a difficult argument.