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01-15-2008, 10:18 AM
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Need to check the book now..... 
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01-15-2008, 10:21 AM
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Never bet a horse who Gallant Bloom has played. (I'm ready for the backlash, don't worry....... I need to say something outlandish for her to speak to me)
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01-15-2008, 10:24 AM
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(Kidding, V).
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01-15-2008, 12:41 PM
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funny that Asiatic Boy's rating of 117 is based on his 4th in the Sussex stakes last year and not on his UAE Derby performance which certainly looked better. I was thinking about him the other night and the more i think about his summer in Europe the more of a shambles I think it was. Even thinking about running over 10f in soft ground against pretty much the best Europe has to offer was just crazy. The first priority should have been quick ground which he would have got at Ascot (which was his original plan) or Leopardstown just after the Juddmonte. They even could have waited and given him an entry in HK.
I wouldn't heavily disagree with any of the rankings.. Ramonti is the type of horse that will always get a low enough rating as he just beats opponents by enough a la Giants Causeway.
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01-15-2008, 01:01 PM
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I don't think De Kock handled Asiatic Boy very well at all. Ascot would have been perfect for him, but the excuse was that they wanted more time to get him race fit, but then the excuse at Goodwood was that he still wasn't fit enough.
It was a shame we had such a wash out over the summer. I think the ratings are almost spot on from what I have seen over the last year. I think Ramonti does deserve to be one or two points higher, no matter how tight his races are, it's the horses he has beaten that impresses me. I don't think English Channel deserves the rating he has been given. Swap him and Ramonti around and I think that would be correct. Also, swap Hard Spun and Any Given Saturday around in my opinion. As I said before, these people know what they're talking about, so I'm prepared to agree with their verdict.
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01-17-2008, 11:29 AM
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The following changes are notified:- Horse Name Brand No. From To Change Date ---------------------- -------- -------------- -------------- -------------- TIME SUPREME (E012 ) C Fownes A Schutz 17/01/2008
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01-17-2008, 03:22 PM
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 remember to ignore silly boy this weekend. hopefully he gets a different jock. nunes sucks. this list sucks u suck. 
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01-17-2008, 03:34 PM
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Was the "u suck" comment aimed at me? Why am I guess you were looking in a mirror when you wrote this? 
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01-17-2008, 03:42 PM
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still suck.
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01-17-2008, 03:54 PM
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I do know all of your secrets, remember
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01-17-2008, 07:36 PM
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(Sorry). I don't have a pick for race 1..... yet. Did you see this? HKJC inquiry..... The Stewards today concluded their inquiry which commenced on 1 January 2008 into the running and riding of SILLY BOY. On 1 January 2008, evidence was taken from M Nunes, rider of the horse, and Mr K L Tsui, assistant trainer to Mr A T Millard, trainer of the horse. As Mr Millard was absent from Hong Kong, the Stewards adjourned the inquiry. On that day, Jockey Nunes said he had been instructed by Mr Tsui to ride the horse back in the field due to the horse having drawn the outside barrier. He said accordingly when the gates opened he took hold of SILLY BOY in an endeavour to carry out his instructions. He said SILLY BOY proved difficult to settle in the early stages but then relaxed rounding the turn at the 800 Metres and was able to close the race off quite well. Mr Tsui confirmed he had been directed by Mr Millard to instruct Jockey Nunes to ride the horse at the rear of the field due to the wide draw. Further evidence was today taken from Mr Tsui and Jockey Nunes and evidence was also taken from Mr Millard and Mr K W Hui, manager of AA84 syndicate, the owner of SILLY BOY. Mr Millard confirmed as he was not in Hong Kong at the time, he had advised Mr Tsui by telephone to instruct Jockey Nunes to ride the horse quietly due to the horse racing over 1400 Metres but in particular the fact that it had drawn the outside barrier and that the race was being run on the A course which in his opinion favoured horses coming from back in the field. He said he made this decision as in the horseˇ¦s three race starts since last winning over 1200 Metres on 9 September 2007, the horse had weakened in the Straight after being ridden in forward positions. He said he was of the belief that from barrier 14 too much use would have to be made of SILLY BOY in the early stages for the horse to be able to take up a forward position and then be able to finish the race off. He said he was particularly mindful of the fact that SILLY BOY had not been finishing its races off of late when drawn relatively good barriers, so he was concerned that the horse would again fail to finish the race off after having to be made use of in order to cross from the outside barrier. Mr Millard said after viewing the videos of the race, he was completely satisfied with the manner in which Jockey Nunes had ridden the horse in that he had been able to have SILLY BOY settle for the majority of the race and therefore it was able to close the race off fairly. Jockey Nunes reaffirmed his earlier evidence that after proving somewhat difficult to settle in the early stages when being taken in behind FLYING KENNY, the horse then relaxed well for him and that he was satisfied with the position that he had obtained in the race with the favourite STEEL NERVES racing to his inside. He again said when ridden in this manner over this course and distance the horse had closed the race off in his opinion better than it had done of late. Mr Hui advised the inquiry that he was somewhat surprised by the instructions issued to Jockey Nunes on this occasion as SILLY BOY had been a horse which had usually assumed a forward position in its races. However, for the reasons outlined by Mr Tsui in Mr Millardˇ¦s absence, he respected the decision to ride the horse quietly from the outside barrier. Mr Hui further advised the inquiry that he was satisfied with the manner in which Jockey Nunes had ridden the horse in that he had been able to get the horse to travel kindly for the majority of the race and that the horse had been able to finish the race off. Mr Hui confirmed he had supported SILLY BOY in this race. When questioned regarding the riding instructions for SILLY BOY in the Michaelˇ¦s Choice Handicap scheduled to be run at the Sha Tin racemeeting on Sunday 20 January 2008, Mr Millard said as the horse has drawn barrier 3, it would be his intention to instruct Jockey Nunes to have the horse race in a forward position. However, he added that in the future should SILLY BOY draw a wide gate and the circumstances of the race be such that SILLY BOY may be suited by being ridden more quietly, he would give consideration to adopting those tactics. Mr Hui was advised his evidence was accepted. Mr Tsui and Jockey Nunes were advised their evidence would be reported. Mr Millard was advised in the circumstances the Stewards would take no further action other than to report his evidence, however, he was reminded of the importance of horses trained by him being ridden in a consistent manner wherever possible.
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01-20-2008, 03:32 AM
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I asked this on a different thread, but is Manduro the first German bred to get top ranking?
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