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Old 01-15-2008, 08:41 AM
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Picking winners is overrated......making money, then, I guess is underrated. Picking winners is about ego, it's all about needing to be right, but playing the horses is about making money and if your style of play is to spread, and you actually do make money doing this, then you are a better horseplayer, in all likelihood, than the person who thinks he makes money by picking a winner. I'm not saying that one style is absolutely better, but the successful players I know are better at putting together plays than picking specific winners.

As for the bias frustration, I hear you, and sometimes ( not as often as people think ) this is a big problem when playing the Aqueduct inner dirt ( which I play every day ). However, there is an enormous light at the end of the tunnel if you have a bias, especially a prolonged one, in that the track will become even at a certain point and you will left with a plethora of trips to use to play horses and play against, usually overbet, horses. That should more than financially make up for any supposed tough beats due to bias....if your opinion is solid and your race watching skills are even borderline competent.
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:05 PM
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Picking winners is overrated......making money, then, I guess is underrated. Picking winners is about ego, it's all about needing to be right, but playing the horses is about making money and if your style of play is to spread, and you actually do make money doing this, then you are a better horseplayer, in all likelihood, than the person who thinks he makes money by picking a winner. I'm not saying that one style is absolutely better, but the successful players I know are better at putting together plays than picking specific winners.

As for the bias frustration, I hear you, and sometimes ( not as often as people think ) this is a big problem when playing the Aqueduct inner dirt ( which I play every day ). However, there is an enormous light at the end of the tunnel if you have a bias, especially a prolonged one, in that the track will become even at a certain point and you will left with a plethora of trips to use to play horses and play against, usually overbet, horses. That should more than financially make up for any supposed tough beats due to bias....if your opinion is solid and your race watching skills are even borderline competent.
I already used up some of them ...Like Cherokee Tear,but as you can see,they run 2nd and 3rd against the bias,so ain't like they're are gunna be prices next time.It helps though in having confidence to single horses.
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:30 PM
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I already used up some of them ...Like Cherokee Tear,but as you can see,they run 2nd and 3rd against the bias,so ain't like they're are gunna be prices next time.It helps though in having confidence to single horses.
I think you are looking at it in somewhat the wrong way. It's not a case of making a " horses to watch " list as much as it is making careful notes of bias days, and then upgrading and downgrading horses when they return from those days based on their trips. It takes either detailed notes or a lot of replay watching when the horses come back but sometimes you will be surprised at all the hidden gems you will find.

A prolonged bias is a trip handicappers dream. You just have to be patient....the payoffs will come.
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Old 01-15-2008, 05:30 PM
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I think you are looking at it in somewhat the wrong way. It's not a case of making a " horses to watch " list as much as it is making careful notes of bias days, and then upgrading and downgrading horses when they return from those days based on their trips. It takes either detailed notes or a lot of replay watching when the horses come back but sometimes you will be surprised at all the hidden gems you will find.

A prolonged bias is a trip handicappers dream. You just have to be patient....the payoffs will come.

I got some dates.Like I said earlier, November 4th is a key date at OAKTREE. It really was difficult to get up if ya did't lay close up into the turn etc. Cherokee was best,and got 3rd.I think Street Boss was best, but was up against a strong bias.He may of injured alil something,but is working good again.Be tough Thursday( if the track doesn't have the same problem.) Solis is a f'n fossil though.

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Old 01-17-2008, 05:55 PM
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I got some dates.Like I said earlier, November 4th is a key date at OAKTREE. It really was difficult to get up if ya did't lay close up into the turn etc. Cherokee was best,and got 3rd.I think Street Boss was best, but was up against a strong bias.He may of injured alil something,but is working good again.Be tough Thursday( if the track doesn't have the same problem.) Solis is a f'n fossil though.
Street Boss romps......11/4=key date
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