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Old 01-08-2008, 03:47 AM
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Does anyone have info on the spill yesterday from GG?

Or info on the spill in the 7th yesterday......nasty nasty bounce of the jock.
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:15 PM
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Assuming the track is in good enough shape to run this Thursday, does anyone know if/how they'll reschedule the stakes races they lost last weekend?
I don't know how that's usually handled, or how it affects the condition book of the weeks ahead.
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:11 PM
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Default CHRB clears path for Hollywood to take on Santa Anita dates

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/nat...ita-dates.aspx

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by Jeff Lowe

Following three days of cancellations because of drainage problems with the Cushion Track surface at Santa Anita Park, the California Horse Racing Board on Tuesday cleared a regulatory path that would allow live dates at the current winter/spring meet to move to Hollywood Park.

Meeting in a special session via teleconference, the board voted unanimously to amend Santa Anita's license to allow some or all of its dates to be conducted at Hollywood.

“What we are trying to do here today is simply to remove a regulatory impediment,” CHRB Chairman Richard Shapiro said. “It is not designed to dictate that racing should go to Hollywood Park—that is for the stakeholders to decide.”

Shapiro and Santa Anita President Ron Charles both indicated that Hollywood officials are willing to make the facility available for Santa Anita dates.


Also, the CHRB left the door open for possible waiver of requirement for a synthetic surface at SA -- i.e. allowing them to return to dirt. SA will be meeting with trainers and owners, and said they will make a decision in the next 48 hours. SA also has talked to DMR about stabling horses there for training only.
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:38 PM
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i just read an article (link at equidaily) that SA might rip up the cushion and reinstall dirt.
so, a temporary move to hollywood? exactly how long would it take to rip up cushion, and install dirt?

crazy, absolutely crazy situation....
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:40 PM
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They have no idea what they are doing. From what I heard the Santa Anita surface before cushion was absolutely horrible so I guess anything was better.

They might as well just cancel racing in California and start again next year
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:44 PM
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wonder if cushion track has a 90 day money back guarantee? magna getting ready to throw some crazy (crazier?) money around....what a mess.
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:46 PM
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They have no idea what they are doing. From what I heard the Santa Anita surface before cushion was absolutely horrible so I guess anything was better.

They might as well just cancel racing in California and start again next year
I imagine if they spent $11 million on a new dirt surface they could have come up with a very safe one.
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:49 PM
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I imagine if they spent $11 million on a new dirt surface they could have come up with a very safe one.
exactly!

any idea how long a dirt track lasts? lots of pounding of hooves, lots of heavy equipment running over the track. how many years before they should resurface? altho dirt has been around for ever, it doesn't necessarily follow a dirt track can remain in place forever.
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Old 01-08-2008, 06:21 PM
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They have no idea what they are doing. From what I heard the Santa Anita surface before cushion was absolutely horrible so I guess anything was better.

They might as well just cancel racing in California and start again next year
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some questions arise...

why did CHRB mandate an across the board surface change at all tracks? did they do due diligence? what caused them to feel that all thracks in cali had serious issues, serious enough to warrant a wholesale change-other than bay meadows of course?

if santa anita wanted to duplicate the track at hollywood, why didn't they? they admitted they used finer sand, the supposed cause of all the drainage problems. why the change? how would finer sand help in higher temps? if an all weather track has weather related issues, is it still a better alternative then dirt?
is it the change to an AWT that helps horses, or just changing from an old, worn, compressed track to a newer surface, complete with a new base?
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:04 PM
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some questions arise...

why did CHRB mandate an across the board surface change at all tracks?
According to Richard Shapiro, chair of CHRB, it was the 227 dead horses on the CA tracks in 2005.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:09 PM
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Golden Gate keeps going how they are going they may have 300 dead by the end of this meet
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:12 AM
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some questions arise...

why did CHRB mandate an across the board surface change at all tracks? did they do due diligence? what caused them to feel that all thracks in cali had serious issues, serious enough to warrant a wholesale change-other than bay meadows of course?

if santa anita wanted to duplicate the track at hollywood, why didn't they? they admitted they used finer sand, the supposed cause of all the drainage problems. why the change? how would finer sand help in higher temps? if an all weather track has weather related issues, is it still a better alternative then dirt?
is it the change to an AWT that helps horses, or just changing from an old, worn, compressed track to a newer surface, complete with a new base?
California wacko-enviromentalists made them change the composition of the track at Santa Anita because they felt there would be damaging effects to the surrounding enviroment from run-off on the original composition. As soon as they compromised the original composition of the synthetic materials they were asking for trouble. What a debacle.
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Daily a horses are breaking down at Golden Gate. I wish someone would publish the statistic its got to be grotesque.
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:02 PM
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Assuming the track is in good enough shape to run this Thursday, does anyone know if/how they'll reschedule the stakes races they lost last weekend?
I don't know how that's usually handled, or how it affects the condition book of the weeks ahead.
San Pasqual Saturday.. plus the Raphael and Fernando..
Santa Ysabel Sunday..
San Gorgonio Monday..

Paseana will be shoehorned in there somewhere too..
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