BCS shafted Mizzou and the fans....

[SilverRP]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Oklahoma? LOL

Yes, OU... 2 road losses, one on a field goal at the end of game and one without Bradford for the whole game. Watch tonight.... You'll see what I'm talking about. Who are your top 2 teams?

Originally Posted by SilverRP

Yes, OU... 2 road losses, one on a field goal at the end of game and one without Bradford for the whole game. Watch tonight.... You'll see what I'm talking about. Who are your top 2 teams?

I think if there was an 8-team playoff that Georgia and USC would be in the championship game depending on if they're on opposite sides of the bracket. Georgia hasn't lost a game since early October due, in large part, to the game to game improvement of Knowshown Moreno. He's arguably the best running back in the SEC since Herschel Walker.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I think if there was an 8-team playoff that Georgia and USC would be in the championship game depending on if they're on opposite sides of the bracket. Georgia hasn't lost a game since early October due, in large part, to the game to game improvement of Knowshown Moreno. He's arguably the best running back in the SEC since Herschel Walker.

He's pretty damn good, I agree.

Georgia is good because of their defense.
At this point its easy to say USC and Georgia are the best two teams in the nation... they have played and won easily.

What tune will pillow sing if Ohio State destroys LSU (or vice versa) and Oklahoma manhandles West Virginia (or vice versa)...

Made another mistake. I thought Hawaii was Texas Tech in a bad conference. They are not. Hawaii Offensive lineman could not even touch the Georgia D-lineman on some plays. And their wide receivers learned what it was like to actually get hit hard for once. I think this is the worst mismatch we have witnessed thus far. Score could have been so much more lopsided. And it is not Colt's fault.

I really like Hawaii doing as much as they can on such a small budget. I like the team, and the coach. But my God this was such a stomping in every way.

Originally Posted by pgardn

Georgia is good because of their defense.


What tune will pillow sing if Ohio State destroys LSU (or vice versa) and Oklahoma manhandles West Virginia (or vice versa)...

The same tune. West Virginia is garbage and so is Ohio State.

[SilverRP]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I think if there was an 8-team playoff that Georgia and USC would be in the championship game depending on if they're on opposite sides of the bracket. Georgia hasn't lost a game since early October due, in large part, to the game to game improvement of Knowshown Moreno. He's arguably the best running back in the SEC since Herschel Walker.

Agree with USC, but not so much Georgia.. I still say SC/OU toss up. Those two teams physically overmatch the rest..... Just my observation.

[Oaklawnfan]

Originally Posted by SilverRP

Yes, OU... 2 road losses, one on a field goal at the end of game and one without Bradford for the whole game. Watch tonight.... You'll see what I'm talking about. Who are your top 2 teams?

I totally agree. USC and Oklahoma are probably the two best in the country. My Mizzou Tigers should have played in the Orange Bowl and KU should have played Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl. As for my beloved Warriors, they should have stayed out of the Quarter.
If you have or ever get to enjoy a Game Day Saturday in Hawai'i, it's the best. It starts really early in the morning at the local sports pub eating a moco loco with some brews watching live horseracing on the mainland on sat. tv. Bets are being laid down on laptops off-shore. Then it's on to the parking lot at the stadium for more brews. That's what I call Aloha!

[King Glorious]

Hawaii being in a BCS game was a joke. There is no way they should have been there. Sure, they won all of their games on their cream schedule but they struggled in a few to do that. They are not a program that is on par with the ones in the major conferences. They don't have the financial abilities to keep pace and they just don't have the players. Sure, there are times when these mid-majors can compete with their upper level brotheren (Boise St. over Oklahoma last year) and when some of the second division teams can compete with the first level ones (App St over Michigan) but matching up a mid-major team with a legitimate national title contender is asking for trouble. And they got it.

Also, back when South Florida was ranked #2, I argued that this was ridiculous. I don't care about what the records are and who should move up at the point of a win and who should move down at the point of a loss. That whole ranking system is stupid. If LSU is ranked #1 and Georgia is #2 and UNLV is #3...UNLV shouldn't automatically move up ahead of Georgia if Georgia loses a road game at LSU. But that's how the rankings do things. Lose and you automatically move down. Some argued that South Florida deserved their ranking. Did anyone see them the other day get destroyed by an Oregon team that was playing without Dennis Dixon?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Hawaii being in a BCS game was a joke. There is no way they should have been there. Sure, they won all of their games on their cream schedule but they struggled in a few to do that. They are not a program that is on par with the ones in the major conferences. They don't have the financial abilities to keep pace and they just don't have the players. Sure, there are times when these mid-majors can compete with their upper level brotheren (Boise St. over Oklahoma last year) and when some of the second division teams can compete with the first level ones (App St over Michigan) but matching up a mid-major team with a legitimate national title contender is asking for trouble. And they got it.

Also, back when South Florida was ranked #2, I argued that this was ridiculous. I don't care about what the records are and who should move up at the point of a win and who should move down at the point of a loss. That whole ranking system is stupid. If LSU is ranked #1 and Georgia is #2 and UNLV is #3...UNLV shouldn't automatically move up ahead of Georgia if Georgia loses a road game at LSU. But that's how the rankings do things. Lose and you automatically move down. Some argued that South Florida deserved their ranking. Did anyone see them the other day get destroyed by an Oregon team that was playing without Dennis Dixon?

Teams outside the Big Six BCS leagues that have earned an at-large are now 2-1 in BCS bowl games... that says enough for me.

[King Glorious]

There is a difference in playing a team in a BCS game and playing a legitimate title contender in a BCS game. For instance, say Hawaii had been pitted against Kansas. I think they would have had a chance against a team like Kansas, a team that shouldn't be in a BCS game in the first place. I think that this year, Georgia is legitimately one of the four best teams in the country.

[JJP]

I heard that bookmakers in Vegas and offshore would've had USC favored over either LSU or Ohio State. Yet they aren't in the title game. Once again, the BCS f-ks up.

I'd be satisfied with a 4 team playoff, since I know 8 or 16 would be way too over the top for the hard core traditionalists.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by JJP

I heard that bookmakers in Vegas and offshore would've had USC favored over either LSU or Ohio State. Yet they aren't in the title game. Once again, the BCS f-ks up.

I'd be satisfied with a 4 team playoff, since I know 8 or 16 would be way too over the top for the hard core traditionalists.

usc effed themselves up losing to stanford.

Originally Posted by Danzig

usc effed themselves up losing to stanford.

USC should be automatically penalized.

They lost to Stanford, who in turn lost to Notre Dame.

Notre Dame's 2 wins came off Pac-10 teams (Stanford, UCLA).
In my distorted mind, that eliminates any Pac-10
team from a National Title game.

In hindsight now, it looks like Mizz. and Georgia both
got slighted with horrible opponents. I am also starting to
wonder about Mr. Stoops and his bowl game preps.

Sooner fans are getting heavy doses of depression
in January. This makes 3 very humbling (nah make that humiliating)
loses when favored.
USC, Boise, now W.Va.

[rontheman1964]

I have trouble with the BCS penalizing Mizzou for making their conference championship game and losing. Their only 2 losses are to the same team...Oklahoma....a BCS team. Kansas gets into a BCS bowl as the "Cinderella team" when Missouri has beaten them head-to-head. Mizzou also owns a win over another BCS team...Illinois.

It seems a team is better off not taking the risk of a late season loss and NOT play in their conference championship game. (Example- Georgia) Or to not have a championship game at all (USC and Ohio St and Illinois). Maybe Mizzou should have declined to play OU again and made a BCS game that way.

Also, what is wrong with looking for better match-ups? How about Kansas vs Hawaii if you have to have both in th BCS? How about both at large teams playing each other....USC vs Georgia? This system could be so much more entertaining to the fans if we could break from the structure of conference tie-ins and having specific conferences dictate where they will or won't play (Pac-10 and Big-10). Make those two cry-baby conferences adopt a championship game so they are on equal footing with the other major conferences. Then they will have the same opportunity for the late season win or loss that puts them in or out of the BCS title game. (Then they won't have the 60 day layoff between their last game and the BCS title game.)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Hawaii being in a BCS game was a joke. There is no way they should have been there. Sure, they won all of their games on their cream schedule but they struggled in a few to do that. They are not a program that is on par with the ones in the major conferences. They don't have the financial abilities to keep pace and they just don't have the players. Sure, there are times when these mid-majors can compete with their upper level brotheren (Boise St. over Oklahoma last year) and when some of the second division teams can compete with the first level ones (App St over Michigan) but matching up a mid-major team with a legitimate national title contender is asking for trouble. And they got it.

Also, back when South Florida was ranked #2, I argued that this was ridiculous. I don't care about what the records are and who should move up at the point of a win and who should move down at the point of a loss. That whole ranking system is stupid. If LSU is ranked #1 and Georgia is #2 and UNLV is #3...UNLV shouldn't automatically move up ahead of Georgia if Georgia loses a road game at LSU. But that's how the rankings do things. Lose and you automatically move down. Some argued that South Florida deserved their ranking. Did anyone see them the other day get destroyed by an Oregon team that was playing without Dennis Dixon?

also depends on when you are a loser in the season--lose early and have a chance to move back up. lose late, too bad.
always a problem when opinion decides who's best, rather than proving it on a field.
case in point, i thought OU would handle WVA.

[SilverRP]

Originally Posted by SilverRP

Yes, OU... 2 road losses, one on a field goal at the end of game and one without Bradford for the whole game. Watch tonight.... You'll see what I'm talking about. Who are your top 2 teams?

Hahaha, what a dumb ass I am..... Dead wrong on this one. Wow, talking about being manhandled, WV shoved them around all night.... But at the end of it all, both teams are going home today. Of course, one team is happy, the other not, but neither team is moving on to next week.