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Old 12-22-2007, 10:24 AM
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Would Ricardo have more opportunities to ride a lot more winners in Argentina than Brazil? I was intrigued when he moved there last year-at a fairly late stage in his career.
Ricardo went to Argentina by 2 reasons mainly:

First, here in Brazil horse racing is going badly...race courses are almost empty and wagering level is decreasing...(although breeding is doing well)...his contracts should have been not very good for a jockey of his category...in Argentina, stables may pay him better than here...since purses there are a lot better;

Second, here in Brazil he wouldn't be able to pursue Laffit Pincay's world record and then the 10 thousand wins...since races here happen 3 days a week....at Argentina there is horse racing almost everyday.
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Old 12-22-2007, 12:54 PM
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Ricardo went to Argentina by 2 reasons mainly:

First, here in Brazil horse racing is going badly...race courses are almost empty and wagering level is decreasing...(although breeding is doing well)...his contracts should have been not very good for a jockey of his category...in Argentina, stables may pay him better than here...since purses there are a lot better;

Second, here in Brazil he wouldn't be able to pursue Laffit Pincay's world record and then the 10 thousand wins...since races here happen 3 days a week....at Argentina there is horse racing almost everyday.
Thanks. The website that's tracking the race-says that Ricardo's best year saw him winning 479 races (compared to Baze's best 444)-was that last year-or did he record that number when he was in Brazil and raced more often.

Do you think he will go back to Brazil, for a short while, so he can win his 10,000th at Gavea.
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Old 12-22-2007, 02:20 PM
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Thanks. The website that's tracking the race-says that Ricardo's best year saw him winning 479 races (compared to Baze's best 444)-was that last year-or did he record that number when he was in Brazil and raced more often.

Do you think he will go back to Brazil, for a short while, so he can win his 10,000th at Gavea.
He won Gavea's stats for 17 or 18 years in a row, i think...10 years ago, we used to have races almost everyday here....horse racing enter into a decline in the last 10 or 15 years...so i think he did that when he was here...not at Argentina...

I think he will win his 10,000th at Argentina, since he is under contract with Stud Rubio B and he only comes to Brazil when there are extremely important races, like GP Brasil, GP São Paulo or the Derbies.
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:28 PM
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as of 12/29

Jorge Ricardo 9,981
Russell Baze 9,953
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:39 PM
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With one days racing left in 07-the gap reaches 30 for the 1st time-9984-9954.
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:05 PM
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With one days racing left in 07-the gap reaches 30 for the 1st time-9984-9954.
Huh?

As of November 4th 2007...
Jorge Ricardo 9916 wins.
Russell Baze 9898 wins.

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Alan Shuback, Daily Racing Form 2/6/2007
Jorge Ricardo is the world's new all-time winningest jockey. The 45-year-old Brazilian scored the 9,591st victory of his career at the Hipodromo Argentino in Palermo, Buenos Aires, on Monday evening to move one ahead of Russell Baze, who was sidelined after cracking a rib at Golden Gate Fields last week.
http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=23244
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:12 AM
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Huh?

As of November 4th 2007...
Jorge Ricardo 9916 wins.
Russell Baze 9898 wins.



http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=23244

Ricardo's lead is 30-the first time it has been as high as that. Ricardo took advantage of Baze's injury and then his 15 day ban and by November 4th it was Ricardo ahead by 18-I think Baze got the gap down to around 12 but now it's 30 (in Ricardo's favour-the gap was more in the other direction before Ricardo moved from Brazil to Argentina)
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