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Old 12-17-2007, 04:10 PM
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I think he indeed thinks her a superstar with scary-good potential, and has purposely avoided the dirt (no Breeders Cup) to help prevent possible injury, so she can dazzle as a 3-year-old.

Running her on synthetics possibly makes her a bit fitter than her dirt counterpoints, giving her a good 3-year-old base without the same risk of time off for bucking or chips.

This is one of the steamiest and biggest piles of crap I have ever heard. I mean, honestly, do you think about this garbage before spewing it or are you so desperate in hoping that even one person will buy this " polytrack is a feather bed and dirt is a pit of fire " nonsense that you will say anything?

Before posting this perhaps you should have looked at how many times Frankel risked her life and health by working her on the dirt ( five times at Saratoga and two times prior to her debut at Belmont ). He was so worried about the evil dirt surface that he worked her at Belmont prior to the Alcibiades, and after her debut, and then returned her to Belmont after Keeneland and worked her on the dirt there some more.
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Old 12-17-2007, 04:15 PM
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This is one of the steamiest and biggest piles of crap I have ever heard. I mean, honestly, do you think about this garbage before spewing it or are you so desperate in hoping that even one person will buy this " polytrack is a feather bed and dirt is a pit of fire " nonsense that you will say anything?
If you want to be moronic and insulting, have at it. Doesn't bother me when you appear foolish.

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Before posting this perhaps you should have looked at how many times Frankel risked her life and health by working her on the dirt ( five times at Saratoga and two times prior to her debut at Belmont ). He was so worried about the evil dirt surface that he worked her at Belmont prior to the Alcibiades, and after her debut, and then returned her to Belmont after Keeneland and worked her on the dirt there some more.
Racing and working are different circumstances, one controlable and one not. He can race this filly anywhere he wants. I think he's planning this filly's career - not season - very carefully.
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Old 12-17-2007, 04:16 PM
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You made the inane point that he avoided to dirt to prevent injury.....and I explained that it simply wasn't true. Your polytrack flagwaving clouds your thinking.
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Old 12-17-2007, 04:34 PM
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You made the inane point that he avoided to dirt to prevent injury.....and I explained that it simply wasn't true. Your polytrack flagwaving clouds your thinking.
Yes, I think he deliberately avoided racing this filly on dirt, to help avoid injuries common to fast and talented 2-year-olds that race on dirt. It's a fact that horses running on synthetic surfaces have less bone injuries - hence why I mentioned bucking and chips, two of the biggest career-delays in promising young horses.

You think Country Star hasn't raced on dirt as Frankle may think she may not be as good on that surface. I think there are other reasons he hasn't raced her yet on dirt.

You could ask me what concerns I do have about young horses running on synthetic surfaces.

But then, you might learn something, and have to give up your broad generalized characterizations about both the surfaces, and those that support them.
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Old 12-17-2007, 04:38 PM
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Don't be pissy because your steaming pile of crap was exposed.
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Old 12-17-2007, 04:41 PM
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Don't be pissy because your steaming pile of crap was exposed.
That's all you got? Geesh!
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:45 PM
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Don't be pissy because your steaming pile of crap was exposed.
You make nice dude!

Besides, my inside source in the Frankel barn says the real reason he hasn't run her on dirt yet is that he intends for her to be the first filly in history to win the Kentucky derby while making her dirt debut.
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:10 PM
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From Racing post, yesterday.....


Impressive Country Star ‘next Kentucky Derby winner'

by Racing Post staff

USA There was no mistaking Bobby Frankel's confidence in Country Star following the filly's victory in the Starlet Stakes at Hollywood Park on Saturday. When asked if he was looking forward to the Kentucky Oaks next spring, Frankel replied: “She's going to be the next Kentucky Derby winner.”

Country Star had just demolished another Grade 1 field after coming from off the pace. She had finished second on her debut over turf at Belmont Park, then won the Grade 1 Alcibiades Stakes on Polytrack at Keeneland.

Jockey Rafael Bejarano said: “Youcan't compare her win in Kentucky with this one. She's so much better now.”

Frankel added: “It looked like he asked her and she took off. She's great to be around, easy to train, and she does everything 100 per cent. This one might be something special. We'll probably point to some races in May. I haven't made any plans yet. She might run in the Santa Anita Oaks , maybe one race before then.”
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Old 12-17-2007, 04:39 PM
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Yes, I think he deliberately avoided racing this filly on dirt, to help avoid injuries common to fast and talented 2-year-olds that race on dirt. It's a fact that horses running on synthetic surfaces have less bone injuries - hence why I mentioned bucking and chips, two of the biggest career-delays in promising young horses.

You think Country Star hasn't raced on dirt as Frankle may think she may not be as good on that surface. I think there are other reasons he hasn't raced her yet on dirt.

You could ask me what concerns I do have about young horses running on synthetic surfaces.

But then, you might learn something
, and have to give up your broad generalized characterizations about both the surfaces, and those that support them.


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Old 12-17-2007, 04:54 PM
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LOL - I dunno, I think that's it ...
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and so ends another chapter of as Andy's World Turns..stay tune tomorrow for more steaming adventures.

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Since this appears to be the place where we'll make our predictions on Indian Blessing vs. Country Star, put me down for Country Star. I think she'll prove to be better next year.

I like her runstyle better and have more faith in Frankel than Baffert.
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