12/12: AQU - $206,0000 Carryover

[Scav]

Today should pay really well, especially if Contessa gets beat in the last like I think he will.

[Scav]

Payouts for anyone interested:

1: 345k
2: 28k
3: 68k
4: 171k
5: 228k
6: 342k
7: 12.9k
8: 76k
10: 136k
11: Carryover

[blackthroatedwind]

It's actually horrendously bad with the 7. Equals the parlay, using the Pick-4, and I have a hard time believing Ricardo A was 2-1 in the Pick-6.

Nice, by the way, how the rail was opened up for the last winner on the backstretch.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's actually horrendously bad with the 7. Equals the parlay, using the Pick-4, and I have a hard time believing Ricardo A was 2-1 in the Pick-6.

Nice, by the way, how the rail was opened up for the last winner on the backstretch.

I don't like the horse, but Titan is alive so I am cheering for him. I liked the 2,5,10 (if I would have played)

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Scav

I don't like the horse, but Titan is alive so I am cheering for him. I liked the 2,5,10 (if I would have played)

I understand. The payoffs look low considering how tough this sequence was.

[Scav]

I can't believe how no one used the 5 at all. Swain's horses are infinitely better routing and Baker is a good trainer from what I can tell, that last looks like 'lets get him out there' type run.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Scav

I can't believe how no one used the 5 at all. Swain's horses are infinitely better routing and Baker is a good trainer from what I can tell, that last looks like 'lets get him out there' type run.

i agree, swain's need two turns and the first wasn't bad; showed some speed and beat more than half the field. gets a couple decent interim drills in as well plus Coa.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by philcski

i agree, swain's need two turns and the first wasn't bad; showed some speed and beat more than half the field. gets a couple decent interim drills in as well plus Coa.

Wouldn't have beat the 7 today but he ran well, given he blew the first turn and then looked dead and came flying with a little trouble.

Good job Titan on the hit.....

[blackthroatedwind]

First of all, congratulations to Titan Sooner. Great job.

Now, for those that wonder why some people have occasional problems with seemingly odd performances by Gary Contessa trained runners, I suggest they take a good long look at the future Kentucky Derby ( and probable Triple Crown winner ) that just won the NY Bred finale. Earlier on the card, Ricardo A, another Gary Contessa runner, somewhat suprisingly galloped versus OK older claimers, at a somewhat surprisingly low 2-1. Well, that's OK, Ricardo A has run some decent races in the past, and is capable of Beyer figs in the low to mid 90s. However, the mighty Wishful Tomcat just ran a full second faster than Ricardo A. Now, don't give me " he was loose on the inner " argument....because so was Ricardo A. However you want to cut it, the performance by Wishful Tomcat is the kind that make horseplayers angry....to say the least. It's inexplicable.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Scav

Today should pay really well, especially if Contessa gets beat in the last like I think he will.

By which horse(s)?

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

By which horse(s)?

By the way, props go to CJ.. you're figs are the best!

[declansharbor]

Great job Titan!!!

[Heels1989]

Excellent run Titan. Congrats.

[blackthroatedwind]

Take a look at the pps for tomorrow's 8th race and take a good luck at Missile Motor, a 4YO gelding that Contessa claimed off Bruce Levine, and explain to me his 111 first time off the claim. Don't give me the mud, because he's run in the mud before, and his figures are consistent with his dry track races.

Where do these performances come from?

[Scav]

This could be fun tonight

[blackthroatedwind]

It's not fun. You've got a 14% trainer who's horses seem to run, at random, Grade 1 races....before slipping off routinely into oblivion.

Mr. Contessa is so impressed with Missile Motor's 111 ( over a length faster than the number Midnight Lute earned in winning the BC Sprint ) that he is offering him tomorrow for the same $50K price he was in for before his Grade 1 effort.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's not fun. You've got a 14% trainer who's horses seem to run, at random, Grade 1 races....before slipping off routinely into oblivion.

Mr. Contessa is so impressed with Missile Motor's 111 ( over a length faster than the number Midnight Lute earned in winning the BC Sprint ) that he is offering him tomorrow for the same $50K price he was in for before his Grade 1 effort.

I agree it isn't fun, but nothing will ever change. It won't change until they go to a baseball type penalty system, and horse racing gets one governance system, otherwise, we are all wasting our breath.

It is amazing how many baseball players SHRUNK in a matter of months because of the impeding penalties on cheaters, it is equally amazing how the HR numbers lowered for the comedy players. I think the same would happen if those type of stances were taken in horse racing

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's not fun. You've got a 14% trainer who's horses seem to run, at random, Grade 1 races....before slipping off routinely into oblivion.

Mr. Contessa is so impressed with Missile Motor's 111 ( over a length faster than the number Midnight Lute earned in winning the BC Sprint ) that he is offering him tomorrow for the same $50K price he was in for before his Grade 1 effort.

111 is, what, top 15 or so sprinting for the year? I don't track the NY figures but it is truly unbelieveable. In the horse's defense and not necessarily Contessa's, Missle did break his maiden in his FTS in the mud (not slop) and won his first five. I also don't track at all the NY repeat winners but Contessa's 19% off a last out win.

So there's a couple mitigating things on MM (and perhaps a third if you don't believe the number). But if the # is solid and especially since he's back for $50k, you just got to wonder.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's not fun. You've got a 14% trainer who's horses seem to run, at random, Grade 1 races....before slipping off routinely into oblivion.

Mr. Contessa is so impressed with Missile Motor's 111 ( over a length faster than the number Midnight Lute earned in winning the BC Sprint ) that he is offering him tomorrow for the same $50K price he was in for before his Grade 1 effort.

There's a line in the Davidowitz book, "if Contessa tried to walk across the Hudson, I wouldn't bet against him"

I feel that way about him sometimes too. Especially when you come up with a well thought out selection at a square price that gets destroyed by his "magic".

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Take a look at the pps for tomorrow's 8th race and take a good luck at Missile Motor, a 4YO gelding that Contessa claimed off Bruce Levine, and explain to me his 111 first time off the claim. Don't give me the mud, because he's run in the mud before, and his figures are consistent with his dry track races.

Where do these performances come from?

I think it made it pretty obvious I thought the horse was a lock in the finale. But a Secretariat like score? Come on, this is getting ridiculous.

Great job, Titan!