Tejada to the Astros

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by whodey17

The Astros need much much more than Tejada to be a contendar. I feel that they gave up way too much for him.

I agree with your first sentence. I dont with the second. They gave up some fringe players. There are no studs in the gruop. Scott is 30 and is at best a 4th outfielder type. Albers is very average. Troy may be the only one with star potential and that is a stretch. The Orioles didn't get anywhere near the top prospects the Marlins did (not that Tejada is worth it)

None of these guys are a top 100 prospect

[Crown@club]

If Baltimore ever gets to 85-90 wins again, it won't be on the account of more than one player from this deal that would help do it.

Houston defense weakens as they see Everett as being non-tendered. Still you still have to have players get on base to score runs. Bourn and Matsui are not really known to get there.

[2 Dollar Bill]

Tejada to the Astros ??..... Can he Pitch ???

[MaTH716]

It's going to suck for the Stros when Tejada is on the list tommorrow!

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

It's going to suck for the Stros when Tejada is on the list tommorrow!

[dylbert]

Bourn
Pence
Berkman
Lee
Tejada
Wigginton
Matsui
Towles
Pitcher

As lifelong Astros fan, it is nice to see GM do SOMETHING about offense. Adam Everett is great guy, but banjo hitters belonged in Astrodome not Minute Maid Park. Finally, building offense for hitter's park.

Yes, pitching is important. Astros have had some great pitching staffs in their history. When your staff has 3.00 ERA and hitters only produce 2 runs per games. You lose more than you win. If 3.00 becomes 4.00 and 2 becomes 5. You will win more than you lose!

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by dylbert

Bourn
Pence
Berkman
Lee
Tejada
Wigginton
Matsui
Towles
Pitcher

As lifelong Astros fan, it is nice to see GM do SOMETHING about offense. Adam Everett is great guy, but banjo hitters belonged in Astrodome not Minute Maid Park. Finally, building offense for hitter's park.

Yes, pitching is important. Astros have had some great pitching staffs in their history. When your staff has 3.00 ERA and hitters only produce 2 runs per games. You lose more than you win. If 3.00 becomes 4.00 and 2 becomes 5. You will win more than you lose!

More like lineup is going to be:
Bourn
Matsui
Berkman/Pence
Lee/Berkman
Pence/Lee
Tejada
Wigginton
Towles
Oswalt - can't pitch every other day though.

".......and there's 2 outs to start the game for the 9th time in the last 10 games." Poor Berkman

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

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[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

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Sorry HHH, I just couln't help myself.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

It's going to suck for the Stros when Tejada is on the list tommorrow!

Houston, We have a problem!

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I agree with your first sentence. I dont with the second. They gave up some fringe players. There are no studs in the gruop. Scott is 30 and is at best a 4th outfielder type. Albers is very average. Troy may be the only one with star potential and that is a stretch. The Orioles didn't get anywhere near the top prospects the Marlins did (not that Tejada is worth it)

None of these guys are a top 100 prospect

I see your point, but it is not like Tejada has any upswing at this point in his career. Troy Patton and Matt Albers were going to compete for a starting spot. I cannot see giving up two pitchers with starting potential for a 31 year old shortstop. I know the Astros have trouble scoring runs, but who on earth is going to pitch for them. They have no one after Oswalt. Pitcing and defense wins world series and I think Everett is a better defensive shortstop that Tejada and now they have worsen their pitching staff. The move doesn't make sense to me.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by whodey17

I see your point, but it is not like Tejada has any upswing at this point in his career. Troy Patton and Matt Albers were going to compete for a starting spot. I cannot see giving up two pitchers with starting potential for a 31 year old shortstop. I know the Astros have trouble scoring runs, but who on earth is going to pitch for them. They have no one after Oswalt. Pitcing and defense wins world series and I think Everett is a better defensive shortstop that Tejada and now they have worsen their pitching staff. The move doesn't make sense to me.

Albers is a below average pitcher and Patton is a double A prospect who is only a fair prospect and has a history of arm trouble. This is a good trade for Houston. They gave up a bunch of guys who aren't major league regulars and got a power hitting SS who fits the home park to a tee. If they were relying on Albers and Patton being in the rotation they were doomed anyway because those guys aren't very good.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Albers is a below average pitcher and Patton is a double A prospect who is only a fair prospect and has a history of arm trouble. This is a good trade for Houston. They gave up a bunch of guys who aren't major league regulars and got a power hitting SS who fits the home park to a tee. If they were relying on Albers and Patton being in the rotation they were doomed anyway because those guys aren't very good.

They arent very good. But I think they are a better option than a shortstop who is 31 and on the decline. I would be very surprised to see Tejada hit more than 35 hr's this year. Be interesting to see what happens in a couple of years. In my opinion, give up those 5 guys for a mediocre pitcher instead of Tejada.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by whodey17

They arent very good. But I think they are a better option than a shortstop who is 31 and on the decline. I would be very surprised to see Tejada hit more than 35 hr's this year. Be interesting to see what happens in a couple of years. In my opinion, give up those 5 guys for a mediocre pitcher instead of Tejada.

More than 35? If he hits more than 35 then this trade is an absolute steal. If he hits .300 with 20 HRs and 90 RBIs the trade will work out just fine. The only thing I'd be worried about if I was the Astros is if his body wears down and he spends most of the season on the DL.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

More than 35? If he hits more than 35 then this trade is an absolute steal. If he hits .300 with 20 HRs and 90 RBIs the trade will work out just fine. The only thing I'd be worried about if I was the Astros is if his body wears down and he spends most of the season on the DL.

If he does nothing they dont lose much becase they gave up no impact guys. I can see him hitting .285 28HR 95 RBI's in Minute Maid. Plus he gets to play in Miller Park, Wrigley and Great American a lot. Not to mention that going to the NL should negate the loss of the juice.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by whodey17

They arent very good. But I think they are a better option than a shortstop who is 31 and on the decline. I would be very surprised to see Tejada hit more than 35 hr's this year. Be interesting to see what happens in a couple of years. In my opinion, give up those 5 guys for a mediocre pitcher instead of Tejada.

Tejada is worth a whole lot more than a mediocre pitcher. They already have a bunch of them.

[Mortimer]

Is this trade for real?






Herbstreit got any poop on it?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Is this trade for real.






Herbstreit got any poop on it?

He only does Tigers and Indians rumors

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He only does Tigers and Indians rumors

Oh.