Fallon update.....

[NoChanceToDance]

Everyone has ridden horses who have died on the track. It's sad, but it isn't an excuse.

The problem is, mmsc, his drugs problem came long before this court case, his alcohol problem came ages before this court case. His temper has always been there. I will never forget the day he pulled Stewart Webster (a good family friend) from a horse at the track, which could have caused serious injury to him.

There was the incident with him and John Egan in Hong Kong.

The incident with Henry Cecil's wife.

The drugs, not once, but twice. Once I could understand, but he vowed to get help, those around him vowed to help him. He has thrown that trust an respect back into these people's faces.

You say he didn't hurt anyone. You're right, he didn't, however, riding a horse while under the influence is just as bad (if not worse) as driving a car under the influence of drink and/or drugs. Can you imagine if his judgement was impared and he had caused a big racing accident killing and injuring both horses and jockeys?!?!?

That is the bad part about it.

Sure, if he feels like the drugs take a great deal off his mind, fine use them BUT don't ever think about riding while still under the influence.

That is what really has got to me. That he has been willing to do it whilst riding and therefore risking life and limb of him and others just so he feels better. Now in my mind that is very selfish.

The court case was pathetic, you're quite right, but if he hadn't have got mixed up with these people in the first place, he wouldn't have got mixed up in this.

I like him. He's a fantastic jokey, but it makes me sick he was willing to take drugs when he knew he'd be riding with them still in his system. The accidents that could have happened because of the drugs.

It hurts me when he has been offered so much help for his problems, coolmore have stood by him for so long and then they find out about this, how heartbraking must it be for them. They must feel so let down, and even used at the moment.

I wish him all the best, but what he has doen has been very selfish.

He has had so many chances to sort himself out, but he's never taken any of them. If he can't help himself, what are we supposed to think of him?

[brockguy]

does anyone else see how ironic it was that the horse involved in the second case was Myboycharlie ??

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by brockguy

does anyone else see how ironic it was that the horse involved in the second case was Myboycharlie ??

Haha.....

I hadn't thought about that before.

[gallant bloom]

nc2d what
happened with
egan in
hong kong?

i give up
on kieren
now.

i understand
drug use
well but
he needs to
make his
choice and
i think he has.

i have no
more sympathy.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by gallant bloom

nc2d what
happened with
egan in
hong kong?

i give up
on kieren
now.

i understand
drug use
well but
he needs to
make his
choice and
i think he has.

i have no
more sympathy.

I can't really remember the exact story now, but journalists tricked him and Fallon into making them think they were professional gamblers or something important anyway and they secretly filmed them giving out confidential information about horses etc.

I think that was it, anyway.

Hence why neither of them can ride out there

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

I can't really remember the exact story now, but journalists tricked him and Fallon into making them think they were professional gamblers or something important anyway and they secretly filmed them giving out confidential information about horses etc.

I think that was it, anyway.

Hence why neither of them can ride out there

I thought Fallon was cleared by the HKJC.

Egan refused to go back to face charges (which was why Munce was detained, in a roundabout way).

It was kinda pathetic when Les Arcs was scheduled for Japan and he asked the HKJC for help clearing his name with the JRA.....

Needless to say, they didn't exactly come running.

Was Fradd busted then too or was that a different incident?

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I thought Fallon was cleared by the HKJC.

Egan refused to go back to face charges (which was why Munce was detained, in a roundabout way).

It was kinda pathetic when Les Arcs was scheduled for Japan and he asked the HKJC for help clearing his name with the JRA.....

Needless to say, they didn't exactly come running.

Was Fradd busted then too or was that a different incident?

As far as I'm aware, neither of them returned to face charges, and the HKJC banned them from riding there.

I could be wrong, though.