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12-09-2007, 08:34 PM
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Well.. good to see the cat got out of the bag on this!
Speaking of which.. and film references: "Cat's in the bag and the bag's in the river..." A line from another film I urge everyone here to add to their list with 'Sting' and 'Hustler'.. Here's another hint: "Relax pal.. that horseradish won't jump a fence.."
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. 
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12-09-2007, 09:09 PM
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"let it ride" also ...might have seen that one..
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12-10-2007, 07:41 AM
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'Byzantine' was a word thought up by 16th Century historians to describe the Roman Empire that remained after the 4th Century loss of the western provinces. The capitol of the empire had been moved by Constantine the Great to a new city named in his honor near the site of an earlier Greek city of Byzantium, which is where the historians got the idea.
Most people have the idea that the Empire was 'Greek' in nature, because it eventually became Greek-speaking (Latin was the official language up until the 7th Century) but in fact many people of influence and in the bureaucracy moved to Constantinople from Rome when the government moved. Greek was the language of the Church at Constantine's time (the New Testament books were originally written in Greek) and it was the 'lingua franca' of the Eastern Mediterranean, so it eventually took over. As the centuries went on, the bureaucracy of the Empire became more and more complex and inpenetrable, while court etiquette became more and more intricate. To the simple barbarians from the western tradition, the whole thing was baffling in the extreme. Hence the term 'Byzantine' to describe anything full of needless complexity, as well as suggesting a certain amount of intrigue - those unmanly Eastern Romans preferred diplomacy to heroic, manly combat to settle disputes! Your history lesson for the day. Last edited by Pedigree Ann : 12-10-2007 at 09:28 AM.
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#8
12-10-2007, 09:21 AM
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Any day, when stuck at work, one can read references to "The Cincinnati Kid", "The Hustler", and "The Sting" is a great day.
A quote like "bite me andrew" only makes it more enjoyable!! Gleason was so perfect as the "Fat Man". The elegance he shows in moving around the table, the smallest inflections of his boidy and voice... George C. Scott, top of his game from the first frame to the last The anguish on Newman's face when he loks at the cast on his thumb and hand. and let us not go into McQueen, Karl Malden and Edward G. in "The Kid" or the entire cast of "The Sting". Byzantine - Yeah Baby!
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