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Old 11-26-2007, 10:16 PM
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If the deadline comes and goes, and Spitzer says let NYRA run the show in the interim, the Republicans, I think, have to approve that as well. More importantly, the Republicans want to right to chose who will be the interim run the show group. If this turns into a bluff/stalemate, then it's nothing but bad, very bad, for the industry as a whole.

And why should NYRA agree to run things on a possible interim basis because the politicians have screwed this up beyond belief?

They won't......and they shouldn't.

Give them the full extension.....or fight them in court over the land. They're a lot stronger than people seem to realize and they hold the cards.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:50 PM
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And why should NYRA agree to run things on a possible interim basis because the politicians have screwed this up beyond belief?

They won't......and they shouldn't.

Give them the full extension.....or fight them in court over the land. They're a lot stronger than people seem to realize and they hold the cards.
I agree, they shouldn't. I wasn't sure they wouldn't though. Only reason being, if anyone else came in, that might not be a strategically good step in the right direction. It's moot though as you are right about continuing the litigation/bankruptcy side. As those who know said from day one -- the land was the ace.

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Old 11-27-2007, 04:23 AM
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I agree, they shouldn't. I wasn't sure they wouldn't though. Only reason being, if anyone else came in, that might not be a strategically good step in the right direction. It's moot though as you are right about continuing the litigation/bankruptcy side. As those who know said from day one -- the land was the ace.

Eric
When asked about the franchise situation early in 2006, John Nerud told the At the Races audience that NYRA owned the land/facilities and a court would rule that way should it get to litigation.. He was resolute that there would be no way for the state to simply wrangle away the issue, and if they didn't approach it in good faith there would be a hassle. Nerud has only been right about everything in racing for the last 75 years..
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:15 AM
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It's the NYRA's land, why shouldn't they get the racing franchise ? And what has taken Bruno 6 years to get the vlt into Aqueduct ? This guy has some explaining to do.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:27 AM
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Its the little guys who would get hurt in a shutdown, even if it were for just a few weeks. The big guys can get out of town and take their help with them. Small operations with mosty NYbreds and cheap stock who look forward to AQU so they can make some $$$ and who don't have money to put horses on vans to PHA etc will get hurt. The man with 6 horses, one hotwalker and one groom, with 2 kids in school in NYC can't just up and walk out of town. If there is no racing he gets no money and he still has mouths to feed, human and equine.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:29 AM
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Its the little guys who would get hurt in a shutdown, even if it were for just a few weeks. The big guys can get out of town and take their help with them. Small operations with mosty NYbreds and cheap stock who look forward to AQU so they can make some $$$ and who don't have money to put horses on vans to PHA etc will get hurt. The man with 6 horses, one hotwalker and one groom, with 2 kids in school in NYC can't just up and walk out of town. If there is no racing he gets no money and he still has mouths to feed, human and equine.

Well then it's a good thing there won't be a shutdown.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:45 AM
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Well then it's a good thing there won't be a shutdown.
Andrew, I very much hope that you are correct....are you basing your statement on any solid info/news??
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:46 AM
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I'm glad you are so confident, but some of the trainers I know are less so. I hope you are right.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:32 AM
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Wow you all "Know" the land is NYRA's that's so funny considering counsel for both sides "think" they are right
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:20 AM
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It's the NYRA's land, why shouldn't they get the racing franchise ? And what has taken Bruno 6 years to get the vlt into Aqueduct ? This guy has some explaining to do.
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:54 AM
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And why should NYRA agree to run things on a possible interim basis because the politicians have screwed this up beyond belief?

They won't......and they shouldn't.

Give them the full extension.....or fight them in court over the land. They're a lot stronger than people seem to realize and they hold the cards.
I explained this the other day to someone as a husband that is cheating on his wife, and looking for the best mistress to be with in the long run, while telling his current wife to stick around and wash the dishes and do the laundry while he makes his decision.

NYRA definately shouldn't, although I would love to see the land issue taken to court...
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