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Old 11-20-2007, 09:06 PM
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Yankee Fans enjoy him A-Rod is probably livid that Mike Lowell's announcement for signing with the Red Sox was announced on the same day as the A-Rod MVP celebration. The nerve of the two time world champion to try and crash A-Rod's ode to me......

I'll take the World Series titles, the gold gloves and the adoration of your town's fans. Once your making the money these guys make it's all good dude. I would never trade Lowell for A-Rod unless I wanted a third baseman to hit 50 homers and for my team to have no chance at a series.
If A-Rod was the RedSox third baseman in '07, do you really think Boston would not have won the world series this year?
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:37 PM
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If A-Rod was the RedSox third baseman in '07, do you really think Boston would not have won the world series this year?
No chance in hell in 2004 and still iffy in 2007 because others who were allowed to grow and perform without the "me" first ahole factor....see Youk (himself a bit of more talent than he showed until 2007, Jason Pedroia who would have unlikely prospered in a tense clubhouse rather than the one he had...and I could go on on.....Boston is a weird place to play with a negative karma until the last few years where many a premadonna (sp?) ruined talented teams destined for greatness.

This particuar question your asking here has been debated by Boston journalism royalty eg Ryan Gammons etc to the same thing I am saying. To a man (sorry Jackie McM.) they all have cast votes for "If A-Rod were here the curse would now have 90+ years to it....." It does have to make sense to be the truth...sometimes you DO subtract from a team by adding talent to it if it comes with baggage like this!!
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:20 AM
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No chance in hell in 2004 and still iffy in 2007 because others who were allowed to grow and perform without the "me" first ahole factor....see Youk (himself a bit of more talent than he showed until 2007, Jason Pedroia who would have unlikely prospered in a tense clubhouse rather than the one he had...and I could go on on.....Boston is a weird place to play with a negative karma until the last few years where many a premadonna (sp?) ruined talented teams destined for greatness.

This particuar question your asking here has been debated by Boston journalism royalty eg Ryan Gammons etc to the same thing I am saying. To a man (sorry Jackie McM.) they all have cast votes for "If A-Rod were here the curse would now have 90+ years to it....." It does have to make sense to be the truth...sometimes you DO subtract from a team by adding talent to it if it comes with baggage like this!!
That may be the silliest thing I've ever read on here. I'm sure the Patriots fans would have said they'd have been worse off with Randy Moss on their team when he was a "loser" in Oakland. Any team is better off with Gay-Rod. The only question is whether he is worth the money.
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:19 PM
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That may be the silliest thing I've ever read on here. I'm sure the Patriots fans would have said they'd have been worse off with Randy Moss on their team when he was a "loser" in Oakland. Any team is better off with Gay-Rod. The only question is whether he is worth the money.
He is worth the money to the Yankees because the money really is not a factor to them
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:09 AM
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That may be the silliest thing I've ever read on here. I'm sure the Patriots fans would have said they'd have been worse off with Randy Moss on their team when he was a "loser" in Oakland. Any team is better off with Gay-Rod. The only question is whether he is worth the money.
Actually I disagree every team is not better of with ARod when your winning titiles without him and the guy is hated like he is in certain cities like Boston.
As far as the silliest comment I will only say that is a geat example of how these discussions turn into bloodbaths. You got something to say go get some evidence to counter the argument rather than invite a personal attack.

No person in the Red Sox braintrust currently wants ARod over Mike Lowell of they thought he was better for this team and it would ensure another titile Lowell would be an Indian but that is not the case. Go read the boards on SOSH (sons of sam horn) the site for this stuff and tell me the Red Sox beleive that. And when your done there go read 38special Schillngs web site about this with player quotes and see if they back you up.

The Sox don't wan't ARod and no one was happier he ended up with the Yankees for the chaos there willbe next year there. If he left they would have rebult in a supportive place now the fans are gonna nail ARod every time he is human and strikes out or makes an error. It is gonna be awful
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:05 PM
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Actually I disagree every team is not better of with ARod when your winning titiles without him and the guy is hated like he is in certain cities like Boston.
As far as the silliest comment I will only say that is a geat example of how these discussions turn into bloodbaths. You got something to say go get some evidence to counter the argument rather than invite a personal attack.

No person in the Red Sox braintrust currently wants ARod over Mike Lowell of they thought he was better for this team and it would ensure another titile Lowell would be an Indian but that is not the case. Go read the boards on SOSH (sons of sam horn) the site for this stuff and tell me the Red Sox beleive that. And when your done there go read 38special Schillngs web site about this with player quotes and see if they back you up.

The Sox don't wan't ARod and no one was happier he ended up with the Yankees for the chaos there willbe next year there. If he left they would have rebult in a supportive place now the fans are gonna nail ARod every time he is human and strikes out or makes an error. It is gonna be awful
Calling your comment silly is going to lead to a bloodbath? Easy with the hyperbole. Do you honestly believe that if Boston could have had A-Rod for 3 years/$37.5 million that they wouldn't have sent Lowell packing in a second? They would have signed that deal with A-Rod and sent Lowell out of town in a heartbeat. Hell, if A-Rod was willing to go to Boston at 10 years/$200 million I'm sure Lowell would be a Yankee right now. The only reason the Sox didn't want A-Rod over Lowell is cause he would have cost them more than twice as much a season as Lowell. It isn't cause they wouldn't have been a better team with him. They absolutely would have been better. Manny is way more of a headache than A-Rod ever has been but he produces and the fans love him. It would have been the same case in time if A-Rod went to Boston.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:42 AM
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[quote=SniperSB23]Calling your comment silly is going to lead to a bloodbath? Easy with the hyperbole. Do you honestly believe that if Boston could have had A-Rod for 3 years/$37.5 million that they wouldn't have sent Lowell packing in a second?


A completely different question than the one debated. The issue was Lowell or ARod for the Sox and the answer was Lowell.
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