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Old 11-13-2007, 11:16 AM
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Well then you guys should be happy he's gone, and not around clouding your forms with horses to readily bet against
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:18 AM
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Well then you guys should be happy he's gone, and not around clouding your forms with horses to readily bet against
So when did you join PETA?
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:20 AM
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Before someone reminds me I need to let it go, I'm sure A Huevo really appreciated how Dickinson had his welfare in mind when he ran over the sloppiest track in history off a year long layoff in the 2005 WV Breeders Classic.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:25 PM
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Before someone reminds me I need to let it go, I'm sure A Huevo really appreciated how Dickinson had his welfare in mind when he ran over the sloppiest track in history off a year long layoff in the 2005 WV Breeders Classic.
My thoughts exactly when anyone "extols" the virtues of Dickinson.

How about tied for the worst Wood winner with... Tapit vs Buddha..one and out
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:37 PM
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How about tied for the worst Wood winner with... Tapit vs Buddha..one and out
Irgun?
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:42 PM
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Bellamy Road. Biggest bias/weather induced win in my history of life. A close second is the great Sinister Minister
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:47 PM
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Bellamy Road. Biggest bias/weather induced win in my history of life. A close second is the great Sinister Minister
Bellamy Road is light years from being the worst horse to ever win the Wood.

Sinister Minister's Blue Grass win was also FAR more bias induced.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:47 PM
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Bellamy Road. Biggest bias/weather induced win in my history of life. A close second is the great Sinister Minister

And what great act of nature caused his unbelievable second place finish in the Travers off a virtual four month layoff?
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:43 AM
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Bellamy Road. Biggest bias/weather induced win in my history of life. A close second is the great Sinister Minister
I laughed.

To compare an excellent horse like Bellamy Road to a complete fluke like SM is crazy. Bellamy Road actually ran very well in the Derby.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:45 PM
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Irgun?
Irgun would have dusted the likes of Adonis, Bob and John, and Storm Tower
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:22 AM
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So when did you join PETA?
That statement makes no contextual sense whatsoever.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:39 AM
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count me as one who didn't know he was still training.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:43 AM
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That statement makes no contextual sense whatsoever.
Coming from someone who used welfare and jumps trainer in the same post I'll take that as a compliment.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:59 AM
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Coming from someone who used welfare and jumps trainer in the same post I'll take that as a compliment.
Ahhh ... so you think jumping horses is cruel?
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:06 PM
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Ahhh ... so you think jumping horses is cruel?
I have a problem with you speaking for Dickinson. His first priority is the welfare of his horses? Really? Let's be honest with ourselves...if his first priority was the welfare of horses he wouldn't be in a business where they are put at risk.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:13 PM
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Let's be honest with ourselves...if his first priority was the welfare of horses he wouldn't be in a business where they are put at risk.

Tough to argue with this.

Dickinson's first priority is to make money. There is nothing wrong with this. However, this is the important point that seems to be being glossed over. Mr. Dickinson can, does, and will make a great deal of money from the proliferation of synthetic surfaces. His second priority is to enable his first priority to be successful.

The overall welfare of horses is way down the actual list of his priorities.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:14 PM
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I have a problem with you speaking for Dickinson.
I obviously didn't speak for Dickinson. I most obviously spoke my own opinion, based upon my own observations, when I said, "I've .... "

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His first priority is the welfare of his horses? Really? Let's be honest with ourselves...if his first priority was the welfare of horses he wouldn't be in a business where they are put at risk.
I asked you if you thought jumping horses was cruel. You haven't answered directly. Do you think so, or not? Your reply above is confusing: do you think racing horses (not over jumps) is cruel, or not?
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