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[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Bold Hawk will destroy him. . .

You can say that again.

Enough with this horse. You would think he was the Triple Crown winner. He has yet to beat a decent turf horse and his beyers continue in the sub 105 range.

Maybe next year he will be a special horse but he has done very little compared to the good three year olds. That is why he is coming back. Nobody is impressed with him on the track or his pedigree.

[bmont22]

You have to give him credit for running more than 3 times a year.
He may not put up huge speed figs, but who cares - the industry needs more horses like this who actually run.

How can anyone be a fan of a horse like Curlin who runs 4 times a year, and is questionable to run as a 4 year old.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by bmont22

You have to give him credit for running more than 3 times a year.
He may not put up huge speed figs, but who cares - the industry needs more horses like this who actually run.

How can anyone be a fan of a horse like Curlin who runs 4 times a year, and is questionable to run as a 4 year old.

Or 9, whatever is more convenient for your argument.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by bmont22

How can anyone be a fan of a horse like Curlin who runs 4 times a year, and is questionable to run as a 4 year old.

Curlin ran 9 times..winning 6 - 1 - 2 and approx 5.5 million in earnings

He had a grueling campaign by today's standards

[horseofcourse]

Do you people really take turf Beyers seriously?? He's improved all season. His last dirt race was his highest dirt Beyer. He ran fine on turf. His BC race was good. He's a multiple graded stakes winner on dirt and multiple graded stakes winner on turf before the end of his 3 yr old season. For a slow horse who hasn't beaten anyone decent he has lots of scoreboard behind him.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Do you people really take turf Beyers seriously?? He's improved all season. His last dirt race was his highest dirt Beyer. He ran fine on turf. His BC race was good. He's a multiple graded stakes winner on dirt and multiple graded stakes winner on turf before the end of his 3 yr old season. For a slow horse who hasn't beaten anyone decent he has lots of scoreboard behind him.

Tjere should never, i repeat never a beyer number assigned again for turf races!

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Do you people really take turf Beyers seriously?? He's improved all season. His last dirt race was his highest dirt Beyer. He ran fine on turf. His BC race was good. He's a multiple graded stakes winner on dirt and multiple graded stakes winner on turf before the end of his 3 yr old season. For a slow horse who hasn't beaten anyone decent he has lots of scoreboard behind him.

And he just lost by about a length to one of the very best turf milers in the world in Excellent Art. There was nothing at all to be ashamed about with his Mile effort and this is coming from a horse that won a grade one on the dirt earlier this year.

Is he a great horse? Not at all. But by today's standards, he's a very good one. He has to go into next year as one of the top five candidates for HOY doesn't he?

[blackthroatedwind]

I agree that he ran very well in the BC and probably would have won it more in 20 runnings than the winner would have.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Benevolus

Enough with this horse. You would think he was the Triple Crown winner. He has yet to beat a decent turf horse and his beyers continue in the sub 105 range.

Maybe next year he will be a special horse but he has done very little compared to the good three year olds. That is why he is coming back. Nobody is impressed with him on the track or his pedigree.

you have no judgement of talent , you spend all your time judging how others judge talent