Slow month for Jessie?

[otisotisotis]

somer, nascar's comments certainly appear to reek, but the point of the thread is that jj takes the 'oh no, we're getting screwed again' attitude.
honestly, it is tired and does not play well anymore.
if a minority group was really interested in obtaining or producing satelite radio, a nascar team, or any other thing (beside the oil bidness), don't you think it would happen?
there is no lack of people or groups that like nothing more than to knock down barriers, maybe he should keep his pie hole shut and quit hindering,or burdening, people with his idiocy.

Why include me in your morality lesson, somer? Worry about yourself and how you're going to make a living. I grow tired of your lessons on life when you fail every single day at it.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Why include me in your morality lesson, somer? Worry about yourself and how you're going to make a living. I grow tired of your lessons on life when you fail every single day at it.

As expected! So tell me Pants, what have you done in life to judge yourself a "success"? How many folks have you helped? What have you done to make this a better place or to ease suffering? I'd love to hear your definition of success. By the way, I'm doing fine...just got promoted...thanks for asking!

Originally Posted by somerfrost

As expected! So tell me Pants, what have you done in life to judge yourself a "success"? How many folks have you helped? What have you done to make this a better place or to ease suffering? I'd love to hear your definition of success. By the way, I'm doing fine...just got promoted...thanks for asking!

I tell families with teenage daughters about you. I think that's being plenty helpful.

[FGFan]

I may be wrong but I think Tawana Brawley and the Duke liar were brought up because Jackson and Sharpeton ran to their defense based only on race and then they were proved to be liars. If they had been white girls J & S wouldn't have cared at all.
How does that make Nascar's post racist?

Not all of us here are.......



but it doesn't make us racists.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by FGFan

I may be wrong but I think Tawana Brawley and the Duke liar were brought up because Jackson and Sharpeton ran to their defense based only on race and then they were proved to be liars. If they had been white girls J & S wouldn't have cared at all.
How does that make Nascar's post racist?

Not all of us here are.......



but it doesn't make us racists.

The original post was about a specific topic and Jackson's remarks about same...throwing Sharpton and Lewie into the mix is typical of the responses I read here and no...mentioning them doesn't make one a racist or their post racist BUT Tawana and Crystal have nothing to do with the topic, except for being black. Sure Sharpton bloodied his own nose with the Brawley mess but he was not part of the original subject himself until Nascar started throwing names of black folks around. What does "bleeding heart" have to do with anything? When did I call Nascar a racist? I was very careful to state that I don't know the individual and that it was the post not the person that I referred to as racist. Your oversimplification of the issue is interesting but not enough to keep me involved in a debate that, as usual, quickly deviates from the subject at hand to folk's tirades.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by FGFan

I may be wrong but I think Tawana Brawley and the Duke liar were brought up because Jackson and Sharpeton ran to their defense based only on race and then they were proved to be liars. If they had been white girls J & S wouldn't have cared at all.
How does that make Nascar's post racist?

Not all of us here are.......



but it doesn't make us racists.

At least some one agrees with my post. Sorry Somerfrost. It would only take time for Sharpton and the rest of his croonies to come out of thier holes and try to get some publicity.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

At least some one agrees with my post. Sorry Somerfrost. It would only take time for Sharpton and the rest of his croonies to come out of thier holes and try to get some publicity.

What about Bensonhurst? What about that poor Guinean kid?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by otisotisotis

somer, nascar's comments certainly appear to reek, but the point of the thread is that jj takes the 'oh no, we're getting screwed again' attitude.
honestly, it is tired and does not play well anymore.
if a minority group was really interested in obtaining or producing satelite radio, a nascar team, or any other thing (beside the oil bidness), don't you think it would happen?
there is no lack of people or groups that like nothing more than to knock down barriers, maybe he should keep his pie hole shut and quit hindering,or burdening, people with his idiocy.

Otis,
I understand your position but I disagree...what we learned in the 60's is that nothing changes until enough people bitch about it, shouldn't be that way but it is! Jesse has been a spokesman for a long time...he has supporters and he has detractors, just as his mentor, Dr King did. Has Jesse made some poor decisions? I think so. Has he shown that he's human? You bet! But after the murder of Dr King, the black community needed leaders and he stepped to the plate...so did the other two men mentioned. Just as half the country disagrees with George Bush and the other half disagree with Hillary Clinton, so it goes with Jesse and the others. I think each issue can be debated but falling back on a "knee-jerk" mindset that if Jesse opposes something, he's doing it for personal gain misses the point...easy to attack the messenger but in the end, it's the message that matters. Again, it's useless for me to defend Jesse here...folks have long sense made up their minds one way or the other but sitting back and staying quiet has never worked in any society. Keep in mind that the purpose of my original post wasn't to defend Jesse but to point out that the post I quoted was racist.