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10-26-2007, 12:02 PM
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Aidan O'Brien has said of the horses dislike of soft ground and will try and avoid it whenever they can. What Makes Monmouth's soft turf different to anywhere else? It wasn't me who ever said the BC was unimportant, but the Coolmore team did imply that it wasn't so important with regards to this horse. I hope he does run because i'd love to see him on the track once last time, all i have said is that there is a big chance of him not running, and i'm not in the minority over here by saying that. Many 'fans' are saying the same.
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10-26-2007, 12:10 PM
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Steve...what do you want me to do? I can't control myself when stuff like this happens. This board is out of control with name dropping and insider info. It's borderline insanity what's going on. Any jagoff with an internet connection can register and claim they have good info because they know some guy behind the guy who combs a horsies hair. How can I rebut this nonsense without being nasty about it?
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10-26-2007, 12:17 PM
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You could at least act grown up about it. You're about 60, right? Yet you're acting like a 12 year old.
I love the fact you said "he'll run" yet gave no reasons why you are so sure. I'm under the impression that they are having doubts about running him and gave reasons.
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10-26-2007, 12:21 PM
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10-26-2007, 12:18 PM
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I dont really know if the point about this race being the plan for Dylan is as relevent as it might be for other horses. Sure, the Arc was barely even the plan for Dylan Thomas. All season, they basically ran him whenever he was fit and ready to go - they havent really stuck to a plan this year with him. I think it would have to be very very soft for them to scratch and even if it is soft, i think he'll win.
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10-26-2007, 12:24 PM
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I just found it interesting that they never nominated this race, and specifically said that if he won the Arc, that would be it. You say it will need to be very, very soft. There is every chance it could be judging by the forecast. If he does run and gets stuffed they will be gutted to go out on a low note, that certainly wouldn't be the plan.
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10-26-2007, 12:37 PM
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about the turf being soft
I don't know how much rain they are getting
I have read that the new turf drains better than well really good. The sharp turns may be the greater concern problem is.. like brockguy said, 5 lengths slower and DT still wins
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10-26-2007, 12:42 PM
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This shows Aidan O'Brien's current concern.
From Racing Post....... Ground worry for Dylan Thomas with heavy rain predicted by Neil Morrice AIDAN O'BRIEN expressed his concern on Friday about the very real prospect of testing ground for Dylan Thomas in Saturday evening's Breeders' Cup Turf at Monmouth Park. Although the heavy rain of Thursday abated overnight, the local weather forecasters have predicted what could amount to a deluge on Friday evening and that would spell bad news for the drifting Turf favourite. Dylan Thomas was widely quoted as an even-money chance by theBritish bookmakers today but anyone wanting to back the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe winner will surely do better by waiting as conditions will not go back in his favour. The colt was partnered by work rider Pat Lillis for his first sighting of the Monmouth Park turf course as O'Brien accompanied his star on the back of a pony. After taking his horses back to the quarantine barn the trainer was in contemplatory mood when talking about Dylan Thomas, who is on the cusp of clinching the Horse Of The Year accolade. O'Brien pondered: "Dylan has such a long, low stride that soft ground is a disadvantage for him. He overcame it in the Arc but everyone knows he's better on concrete. The ground out there is better than Longchamp at the moment and much depends on what happens tonight." If Dylan Thomas is to be blown off his perch, then Brian Meehan's Red Rocks looks the one most likely to do it. The 2006 Turf hero cannot beat Dylan Thomas on the evidence of the formbook, but while the latter has endured quite a long and hard season, Red Rocks goes to post as fresh as paint. Meehan ponied alongside his charge as they were one of the first out on the main track and afterwards the Manton trainer said: "He's on very good terms with himself.He's nice and relaxed and has done everything right. "He just jogged a lap, then he cantered. He'll do the same tomorrow." It will be fascinating to see what tactics Meehan opts for with Frankie Dettori's mount and there is a suspicion Red Rocks will be better-suited by the tight turning course than the massive Dylan Thomas. Meehan, whose charge will run on Lasix and Bute, added: "Last year it took him a bit of time to get into the swing of it. Tomorrow I think there will be pace from the gate and that Dylan Thomas will be aggressive. "My horse's two or three best runs have been from off the pace, so why change?" **************** It all boils down to how much rain they get tonight and tomorrow, if they get what they are expecting it really won't surprise me to see him scratched. The horse has more to lose than to gain and the coolmore gang will realise this.
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