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Old 07-21-2006, 11:35 AM
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I stand by my original thoughts...this will never end until Iran and Syria are dealt with...I pray that it can somehow be done non-violently but every logical, common-sense related bone in my body says the only thing that will settle this is to destroy them....please, let me be wrong!
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Old 07-21-2006, 11:46 AM
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I stand by my original thoughts...this will never end until Iran and Syria are dealt with...I pray that it can somehow be done non-violently but every logical, common-sense related bone in my body says the only thing that will settle this is to destroy them....please, let me be wrong!
It's not going to happen. I'd actually like to see Hezbollah marginalized. We'll see, thigh there's no sign of it happening. In the end the Israelis will deal prisoners. Last time they released OVER 400 prisoners to get one back. I hope they've developed the backbone not to cave as usual, but damn, why do the Israelis ALWAYS back down?
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Old 07-22-2006, 01:20 PM
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S2S,
Here's an article that might give insight.
The question...
Is the continuing insanity only creating more "terrorists"?

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0722-29.htm

My heart breaks for the murder of innocents, the children, the aged.
Short term, they are being destroyed.
Long term, they'll remember.

Ideas don't die. Only fools believe so.
Do present Israeli actions and US support of same make us safer?


I expect the fools to respond positively.
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Old 07-22-2006, 01:45 PM
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S2S,
Here's an article that might give insight.
The question...
Is the continuing insanity only creating more "terrorists"?

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0722-29.htm

My heart breaks for the murder of innocents, the children, the aged.
Short term, they are being destroyed.
Long term, they'll remember.

Ideas don't die. Only fools believe so.
Do present Israeli actions and US support of same make us safer?


I expect the fools to respond positively.

Back in the 60's, I had a poster in my room that said, "War is unhealthy for all living things"! It was a pretty well known poster. Of course, that's why war is hell...(even though I don't believe in such). No denying that innocent folks ALWAYS die! I'm not saying that I want to see war, I'm just saying that the nation of Israel has a right to exist and it's people have a right to defend themselves. How do we stop the circle of violence as long as Syria and Iran feed it? If there is a peaceful way, please find it! Otherwise, which will ultimately save more lives...allowing the status quo to continue with Israel and the terrorists mounting a constant body count, or going to the root of the problem and confronting Iran and Syria? If there is no other way then lets end it now! Maybe if the world united and told these two terrorist states, "stop now or we will stop you!" they would listen without bloodshed...that is where folks efforts should be spent rather than blaming Israel for defending itself imo!
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Old 07-22-2006, 01:56 PM
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Back in the 60's, I had a poster in my room that said, "War is unhealthy for all living things"! It was a pretty well known poster. Of course, that's why war is hell...(even though I don't believe in such). No denying that innocent folks ALWAYS die! I'm not saying that I want to see war, I'm just saying that the nation of Israel has a right to exist and it's people have a right to defend themselves. How do we stop the circle of violence as long as Syria and Iran feed it? If there is a peaceful way, please find it! Otherwise, which will ultimately save more lives...allowing the status quo to continue with Israel and the terrorists mounting a constant body count, or going to the root of the problem and confronting Iran and Syria? If there is no other way then lets end it now! Maybe if the world united and told these two terrorist states, "stop now or we will stop you!" they would listen without bloodshed...that is where folks efforts should be spent rather than blaming Israel for defending itself imo!
I can only give you an answer that my Dad, a decorated WWII officer and "wise man" said to me. His words:

"Wars aren't settled on battlefields. That's where people go to die for their beliefs. They are settled when the ones that put them there sit down at a table."

My thought..."Talk first, listen twice."
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:01 PM
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I can only give you an answer that my Dad, a decorated WWII officer and "wise man" said to me. His words:

"Wars aren't settled on battlefields. That's where people go to die for their beliefs. They are settled when the ones that put them there sit down at a table."

My thought..."Talk first, listen twice."

Very true! The problem is that the old men with the power aren't dying on the battlefield and neither are their sons so words such as "honor" and things such as religious BS have more importance to them than the cost in human life!
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:08 PM
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Very true! The problem is that the old men with the power aren't dying on the battlefield and neither are their sons so words such as "honor" and things such as religious BS have more importance to them than the cost in human life!
Well said SF.
Jesus said, "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God."

And He also said..."Let those that have ears hear."
Your words speak to that.
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