Question For Saratoga Folks

[kgar311]

Wow out of all of the smart people on here (granted I havent read all the threads) but there is a reason the BC is not held at Saratoga. There are up to 14 horse fields in each race of the BC and the Saratoga track is not wide enough to accomodate 14 horse fields. Along with the sharp turns on the grass, Saratogas "racecourse" is whats not big enough. Not the stands.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Wow out of all of the smart people on here (granted I havent read all the threads) but there is a reason the BC is not held at Saratoga. There are up to 14 horse fields in each race of the BC and the Saratoga track is not wide enough to accomodate 14 horse fields. Along with the sharp turns on the grass, Saratogas "racecourse" is whats not big enough. Not the stands.

I do not agree with this at all. I think you are flat out wrong. Look where it is being held this year.

By the way, your first sentence is not coherent or even a proper sentance.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by ARyan

I do not agree with this at all, I think you are flat out wrong. Look where it is being held this year.

By the way, your first sentance is not coherent or even a proper sentance.

Whats a sentance?????????? Anyways it is the reason, its fact, not my guess that its the reason. Saratogas turf course will only accomodate 10 horses not 14 dummy. The turns are way too tight. Once again this is not a guess.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Whats a sentance?????????? Anyways it is the reason, its fact, not my guess that its the reason. Saratogas turf course will only accomodate 10 horses not 14 dummy. The turns are way too tight. Once again this is not a guess.

you can fit ten horses, but not 14 dummies? hmm, didn't know that. but maybe it depends on the size of the dummy.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you can fit ten horses, but not 14 dummies? hmm, didn't know that. but maybe it depends on the size of the dummy.

Im sure you can fit 14 ARyan's on the turf course.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Im sure you can fit 14 ARyan's on the turf course.

You truly are a comedian. With that much wit, I am suprised you are not on the road...

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by ARyan

By the way, your first sentance is not coherent or even a proper sentance.

And I believe this is what english teachers would call a run on "sentence."

Let me help you: Your first "sentence" is not coherent or proper.

Please Please correct your grammar and spelling before you even open up that can of worms.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by kgar311

And I believe this is what english teachers would call a run on "sentence."

Let me help you: Your first "sentence" is not coherent or proper.

Please Please correct your grammar and spelling before you even open up that can of worms.

Sorry, I did not have time to proofread my post. However, your sentence did not make any sense. That is on top of the fact that your whole post was wrong.

[kgar311]

Prove me wrong please, im begging you. It is a known fact.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Wow out of all of the smart people on here (granted I havent read all the threads) but there is a reason the BC is not held at Saratoga. There are up to 14 horse fields in each race of the BC and the Saratoga track is not wide enough to accomodate 14 horse fields. Along with the sharp turns on the grass, Saratogas "racecourse" is whats not big enough. Not the stands.

Width of Belmont stretch: 100'
Width of Saratoga stretch: 100'

Q.E.D

[sumitas]

It'll never happen. Belmont is fine.

[Cannon Shell]

They should hold the BC in warm weather venues only.
2008 - Santa Anita
2009- Sunland Park
2010- Turf Paradise
2011 -Calder
2012 - Fair Grounds
2013 - Fairplex

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They should hold the BC in warm weather venues only.
2008 - Santa Anita
2009- Sunland Park
2010- Turf Paradise
2011 -Calder
2012 - Fair Grounds
2013 - Fairplex

I'm in for the fairplex trip.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I'm in for the fairplex trip.

I forgot Zia

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I forgot Zia

do they have slots there? sign me up if they do

i nominate ruidoso downs as a potential venue as well...

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by philcski

Width of Belmont stretch: 100'
Width of Saratoga stretch: 100'

Q.E.D

Phil Phil, im disappointed in you. Number one there aren't 14 horses sprinting into a clubhouse turn at Belmont and 2 they couldn't fit a 14 horse gate in the stretch at Saratoga.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Phil Phil, im disappointed in you. Number one there aren't 14 horses sprinting into a clubhouse turn at Belmont and 2 they couldn't fit a 14 horse gate in the stretch at Saratoga.

(1) the gate at Saratoga is 14 horses.

(2) the same problem arises at any 1 1/8 circumference course that has hosted any event; Arlington, Hollywood, Aqueduct, etc. The run to the first turn is short in the Distaff. From a course perspective, there's two problems at Saratoga: 1, no way to run a dirt mile, and 2, juveniles would have to go a 1 1/8- which I don't think is a good thing- and the only time this was done in the BC was at Arlington and it didn't work out so well for the Juvy colts&geldings.

There's a problem with every course, Belmont has the quirky start for the 1 1/4 Classic; Churchill can't run a 1 1/4 turf race, Santa Anita will have problems with the Dirt Mile, etc.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by philcski

(1) the gate at Saratoga is 14 horses.

(2) the same problem arises at any 1 1/8 circumference course that has hosted any event; Arlington, Hollywood, Aqueduct, etc. The run to the first turn is short in the Distaff. From a course perspective, there's two problems at Saratoga: 1, no way to run a dirt mile, and 2, juveniles would have to go a 1 1/8- which I don't think is a good thing- and the only time this was done in the BC was at Arlington and it didn't work out so well for the Juvy colts&geldings.

There's a problem with every course, Belmont has the quirky start for the 1 1/4 Classic; Churchill can't run a 1 1/4 turf race, Santa Anita will have problems with the Dirt Mile, etc.

So what your saying is that there is a problem with the "size" of the track? But I do remember them runnig miles on the dirt a Saratoga a few years back.. The same way they run the 1 1/4 at Belmont. That quirkey mid turn start.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by kgar311

So what your saying is that there is a problem with the "size" of the track?

Wow, let us watch as he tries to backdoor his way to prove he is right...

Turf to Dirt now Kgar311?

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by ARyan

Wow, let us watch as he tries to backdoor his way to prove he is right...

Kgar311
Turf to Dirt (1 .00 $0.00)

I am right. For the safety and concern of horses and Jockeys alike, there is no way in hell anyone would allow 14 horses to run on the turf course at Saratoga. But I did forget about the 1 1/16 for the juvies though. That is another reason.