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Old 10-18-2007, 05:00 AM
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I just don't understand Godolphin. Now it looks like Rio won't be running at the weekend because of soft ground, yet everyone who has ridden him thinks he is better with a bit of cut in the ground.

Mr Crisford, just because he is by Rahy, it doesn't always mean that he will want fast ground....... if you were to talk to your staff, no matter how much lower down they are to you in the operation you might learn a thing or two

This is the only chance of Rio beating New Approach in my opinion, and it looks like they are going to cry off with their tails between their legs!


Please, cry babies...... i mean Godolphin, Please run Rio De La Plata on Saturday. It would make for a very good three way battle if he does.
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Raven's Pass now not certain to run, either.
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I'd make my pick but need to wait to see if there will be any actual runners in this race.....
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Old 10-18-2007, 04:37 PM
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I'd make my pick but need to wait to see if there will be any actual runners in this race.....
New Approach will be there, he isn't frightened!
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:12 PM
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Rio / Dark Angel

I'm actually more excited about this one.....

Love half the field but good luck to Al Qasi.

And Balthazaar.

Mac Love and Asset too.

Oh and Cesare.....


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Form Horse Trainer Age Wgt Jockey
1(11) 5-15124 Cesare J R Fanshawe 6 9 7 J P Spencer
2(2) 124111 Toylsome J Hirschberger 8 9 7 S Pasquier
3(14) 21351 Arabian Gleam J Noseda 3 9 5 J Murtagh
4(3) 1-60215 Al Qasi (IRE) P W Chapple-Hyam 4 9 3 T E Durcan
5(10) 136262 Asset (IRE) R Hannon 4 9 3 R L Moore
6(9) 016230 Balthazaar's Gift (IRE) L M Cumani 4 9 3 J Fortune
7(8) 7517-21 Candidato Roy (ARG) W J Haggas 6 9 3 L Dettori
8(12) 3-24312 Duff (IRE) Edward Lynam 4 9 3 D P McDonogh
9(15) 301941 Eisteddfod P F I Cole 6 9 3 N De Souza
10(6) 306645 Mac Love J Noseda 6 9 3 E Ahern
11(7) 364117 Pride of Nation (IRE) L M Cumani 5 9 3 C P Lemaire
12(13) 111-430 Caldra (IRE) S Kirk 3 9 1 K J Manning
13(1) 131-660 Captain Marvelous (IRE) B W Hills 3 9 1 D Holland
14(5) 311117 Lovelace M Johnston 3 9 1 R Ffrench
15(4) 242221 Miss Lucifer (FR) B W Hills 3 8 12 M Hills


Betting Forecast: 9/2 Cesare, 6/1 Arabian Gleam, 7/1 Al Qasi (IRE), Toylsome, 8/1 Duff (IRE), Asset (IRE), Balthazaar's Gift (IRE), 10/1 Pride of Nation (IRE), Candidato Roy (ARG), 14/1 Lovelace, 25/1 Eisteddfod, 33/1 Miss Lucifer (FR), 50/1 Mac Love, Caldra (IRE), 100/1 Captain Marvelous (IRE)
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Old 10-20-2007, 06:10 AM
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a fab days racing, i just cant see too many clear bets.. Ill back Cesare.. Everything seems in his favour (well almost everything!). I can see a fast run race with Spencer cantering through the field and hopefully, getting his head in front on the line..

Notnowcato seems like a great bet, G1 winner, ground trip ideal, just a little concern that he didnt do too well in this race last year..

Id like to have a big bet on Ravens but Ill just savour the race of the year..
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:46 AM
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cracking race. New Approach shows hes the real deal.. didnt have things his own way and still won... a brilliant champion. roll on 2008!

Fast Company made up tons of ground to be a fast finishing 2nd, but it never really looked like hed get NA. NA just put his head down and showed a brilliant attitude when he needed it. I was slightly disappointed with Ravens. He came to win the race and went nearly 1-5 in running but then seemed to empty out in the last furlong. THe ground certainly was slower than he wanted so he may just need some good weather next year to show his best. it looked like they went to the well too much with Rio, a decent performance but much further behind NA than in Ireland..
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