George Washington coming now?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

LOL. I suppose that you are right about the first part and could very well be right about the second part. But even if he is, what have they lost? Last year, he was up the track too. But he was far ahead of such horses as Lava Man, Lawyer Ron, Perfect Drift, Sun King, Suave and Flower Alley.

Where would he have to finish, in your opinion, to justify having made this attempt? IMO, a 5-6 in the Classic would be better than a 2-3 in the Mile and a top four in the Classic would trump a Mile win as far as accomplishing what they want to accomplish with him.

i don't question the decision to run him in the classic, not all connections would make the same decision but its their call to make. i'm just predicting that it will be a back of the pack finish. and as far as the list of horses that he finished in front of last year, we now know that Lawyer Ron was at his low point in that race, and not at all what he is capable of, and the others are no great shakes by any means, even the immortal LavaMan. on the flip side he was beaten by Giacomo and Brother Derek last year, so what does that tell you? he is not as prepared this year, not in the same form as last, running on a surface that he hasn't performed well on, and shipping in from Europe to boot.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i don't question the decision to run him in the classic, not all connections would make the same decision but its their call to make. i'm just predicting that it will be a back of the pack finish. and as far as the list of horses that he finished in front of last year, we now know that Lawyer Ron was at his low point in that race, and not at all what he is capable of, and the others are no great shakes by any means, even the immortal LavaMan. on the flip side he was beaten by Giacomo and Brother Derek last year, so what does that tell you? he is not as prepared this year, not in the same form as last, running on a surface that he hasn't performed well on, and shipping in from Europe to boot.

There is no question that the deck is stacked against him and it's more than likely that he finishes closer to the back of the field than the front. I get that. But I also can totally understand the decision to try it and I think if I was in their position, I would try it too. If GW's position as a world class miler wasn't already secured and if they didn't have Excellent Art for the Mile, I would say that would be the race for him. My argument is not in favor of his chances of winning or running big here. My argument was in response to the question of why.

[Pedigree Ann]

The BC folks said that the new BC Mile wouldn't affect the Classic, but I think we can all see that it has. Hard Spun and Lawyer Ron like to be forwardly placed but (this year for the most part) neither absolutely needs to be in front going fast. If those two go to the front and canter along together in :24 and :49, you can go cash your exacta.

[NoChanceToDance]

I agree with what KG is saying here. Winning the mile wouldn't be a big deal for GW and the Coolmore team. He has rpved (if not this year) that he is a top horse over a mile on Turf. Besides they already own the winner of this year's race...... Excellent Art.

However, if GW was to race in the mile and was soundly beaten (distinct possibilityof that happening) people would be very disappointed. Getting beaten (i.e. not hitting the board) in the mile would be a terrible for both horse and operation. He isn't completely useless in the breeding shed, and i have a funny feeling that they will give him another go again.

Running in the classic is a gain/not lose situation. Everyone is writing off his chances. If he finishes last they can say he just didn't act on the dirt, and no one will really mind as he isn't expected to do well. If he goes and wins or hits the board (both would be a big shock to nearly everyone) that would be some achievment and many will forget about his below average runs that he has had so far this season.

Coolmore might as well throw cautiuon at the wind by running him the Classic. I don't think he has a chance, but what do they have to lose with him on dirt? Nothing.

I cannot have Street Sense on my mind for this race and i will be laying him heavily come BC day. Like KG, i don't believe he is any better than he was last year. Although his last run was just a "prep" i was very disappointed with that. Hard Spun did him easily, i don't care about the easy lead he got, he still managed to pull away from him when Street Sense was being asked some serious questions, whereas Pino didn't have to get as serious on Hard Spun.

[AeWingnut]

I remember GW was completely washed out last year. He kept wondering why they weren't walking over to the grass course. He's a complete toss.
I will be shocked and poor if he gets in the superfecta

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Uh oh...

© Bill Selwyn, Godolphin
DISCREET CAT ENTERED FOR BREEDERS' CUP
17 October 2007


Godolphin's Discreet Cat is one of 11 entries for the new US$1-million Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile, which is run at Monmouth Park, New Jersey, USA, on Friday, October 26.

The four-year-old, who is an intended runner if all goes well between now and then, would take on horses such as Diamond Stripes, Corinthian and High Finance.

The other Godolphin entry for a Breeders' Cup race, the progressive two-year-old Ibn Khaldun, is one of 23 put in the US$1-million Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf, run over a mile on October 26.

He also holds an entry in the Group One Racing Post Trophy at Doncaster, England, on Saturday, October 27. No decision has been made yet about which race Ibn Khaldun goes for.

So, it looks like the Silent Kitty could remain silent for a while longer yet.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

So, it looks like the Silent Kitty could remain silent for a while longer yet.

I'm so glad i put it in the wrong thread.....