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Old 10-16-2007, 07:59 PM
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Mix it up bring safeties, corners, backers, whatever just keep mixing it up and stay out of some weak gap zone.
Those guys are needed in assignments....if they get stopped on offense, it will be because a defensive line dominates the NE O-line and takes over the game.

You can't be serious about blitzing with safeties.....
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:32 PM
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Depends on what coverage you are running. If you your running a shell then you need those safeties back there, but it won't matter anyway because you won't get pressure and brady will have all day to throw. Typically a safety is used in a run blitz as the 8th guy in the box, but why not on passing downs. If your secondary is good you have options. If you have to commit 6 guys to covering the 3 pat recievers..... they are going to beat you like a drum.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:24 PM
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Those guys are needed in assignments....if they get stopped on offense, it will be because a defensive line dominates the NE O-line and takes over the game.

You can't be serious about blitzing with safeties.....
If you are a team with an average defensive line you must.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:21 PM
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I think the way to defense New England is to use the cover two and force Moss and Stallworth to go over the middle. I'm not convinced Stallworth can catch a ball in a crowd, and while Moss can, I think he'd rather not. Make NE try to run. Maroney certainly isn't 100% and we'll see how long Sammie Morris can do it with mirrors. Don't get me wrong; this is the best team and probably the best team in a number of years but I won't be shocked if they take an "L" in Indy.

Someone noted that Welker is not special. No, he's not a "special talent" when it comes to raw athletism. But he is one guy who will go over the middle and isn't afraid to take a beating.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:48 PM
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Welker isen't a special reciever, I'll give you he's better then average, but hes not a gamebreaker. Brandon stokely and wes welker are almost the exact same player. A quick reciever who benefits when coverage shifts elsewhere. He would be shut down if he was a number 1 reciever. Thats why moss is special. If you don't bring help he will dominate any corner in the nfl.

The colts and pats game is going to be a good game. I Live like 20 minutes from the stadium, so i have a pretty good feel for the team. The only way the colts beat the pats is, the pats make mistakes. The cover two is predicated on having intelligent athletic linebackers. Right now... the colts linebacker corp is in shambles. While it will be fine against teams that don't have 3 talented recievers, it's going to struggle against an accurate qb who has weapons. If the colts can force a few turnovers they have a shot at the game. If not, someone besides manning and his receivers will have to play out of their mind for us to win.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:59 PM
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Welker isen't a special reciever, I'll give you he's better then average, but hes not a gamebreaker. Brandon stokely and wes welker are almost the exact same player. A quick reciever who benefits when coverage shifts elsewhere. He would be shut down if he was a number 1 reciever. Thats why moss is special. If you don't bring help he will dominate any corner in the nfl.

The colts and pats game is going to be a good game. I Live like 20 minutes from the stadium, so i have a pretty good feel for the team. The only way the colts beat the pats is, the pats make mistakes. The cover two is predicated on having intelligent athletic linebackers. Right now... the colts linebacker corp is in shambles. While it will be fine against teams that don't have 3 talented recievers, it's going to struggle against an accurate qb who has weapons. If the colts can force a few turnovers they have a shot at the game. If not, someone besides manning and his receivers will have to play out of their mind for us to win.
I believe there's really only one way to beat the Colts: jump them early so their defense has to defend the run and not just go after the QB. Over the past 3 years, there's only a few teams that have had any luck against the Colts: the Chargers, Jags, and Steelers in the playoffs. The Titans also have had a few solid games against them. All did it the same way; jump on them early, then pound the ball...run, run run against their D. The Colts D is undersized but very quick, which is perfect for their artificial turf and perfect when you have a QB who can put the opposition behind almost any time he wants. When the opposition falls behind, they abandon the run, and play right into the hands of the Colts.

While I think the Colts are more than capable of winning that game against the Pats in Indy, I think they will go down this Monday night in J-ville.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:33 PM
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If you are a team with an average defensive line you must.
If you are a team with an average defensive line you are going to lose anyway
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:37 PM
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If you are a team with an average defensive line you are going to lose anyway
The Cowboys are 5-1 with a less than average Defensive line. Its not terrible but not average. Of course they play a 3-4 so its a little diff. And they do play in the NFC.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:12 PM
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The Cowboys are 5-1 with a less than average Defensive line. Its not terrible but not average. Of course they play a 3-4 so its a little diff. And they do play in the NFC.
I meant to say if you have an average defensive line you will lose to the Pats.
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:43 PM
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I thing the colts will handle jax only because of garrard. Dungy is going to give him some diffrent looks.Defensively, I don't think they are as good as they have been in the past. If bob sanders plays, the colts will win by 10.
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