Fallon update.....

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by brockguy

I just hope that Fallon got caught up in an extremely sticky situation re: ballinger ridge. He thought rye would win and told people, the race itself was basically a 2 horse race, so you can why the gang laid him heavily to lose.. Im just trying to think. He cost them so much money. what would have happened had he won this race.. even more.. it was a massive error of judgement and he deserved the huge amount of criticism, but it may of been Fallon getting caught up big time... this is the only ride out of the 17 or so that fallon rode in that is under suspicion at all. He made a huge error of judgement and quite possibly, this race is the reason he is involved in this situation. hence me believing that he is either the stupidest person in the world or the unluckiest..

I was under the impression there was about five or six rides of his that are under suspicion. The ride he was talking about in a text at Goodwood for example?

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

I was under the impression there was about five or six rides of his that are under suspicion. The ride he was talking about in a text at Goodwood for example?

sorry what i meant to say what that his actually riding was under suspicion.... this is the only one i believe that one can say he did anything wrong..

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by brockguy

sorry what i meant to say what that his actually riding was under suspicion.... this is the only one i believe that one can say he did anything wrong..

Getcha.

Off the top of my head, i can't think of anything other than Fallon's ride on a 2yo colt that my father looked after at Newmarket. First time out, a small trainer with Fallon booked. It already looks dodgy and the biggest price you could get was 4/1.

We were all on, we all thought he'd win. He's been working really well with a good horse of Michael Bell's before he made his debut.

He got in front and Fallon seemed to ease down. A filly of Luca Cumani's named Queens Lodge came and nailed him right on the line.

Now, i'm not saying this was on purpose but we were all slightly shocked about the ride he got at the time. A furlong out and there was only one winner from watching the race.... but it wasn't to be.

Fallon was very apologetic to my father when coming back in...... maybe too apologetic for a man who has been known for aggrresive behaviour? a repeated whispered "sorry" followed by a "i'd love to sit on this fella again"

One thing my father didn't tell me until a couple of days after the race was that Kieren said something along the lines of "i don't think this lad will win today" when he first got up on his back. Ofcourse, that could have meant several different things: he didn't think he was fit, he'd been told about another runner etc etc, but it seemed like a very strange thing for a top jock to say to a groom when he first got the leg up on the horse.

[saratogabrit]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Getcha.

Off the top of my head, i can't think of anything other than Fallon's ride on a 2yo colt that my father looked after at Newmarket. First time out, a small trainer with Fallon booked. It already looks dodgy and the biggest price you could get was 4/1.

We were all on, we all thought he'd win. He's been working really well with a good horse of Michael Bell's before he made his debut.

He got in front and Fallon seemed to ease down. A filly of Luca Cumani's named Queens Lodge came and nailed him right on the line.

Now, i'm not saying this was on purpose but we were all slightly shocked about the ride he got at the time. A furlong out and there was only one winner from watching the race.... but it wasn't to be.

Fallon was very apologetic to my father when coming back in...... maybe too apologetic for a man who has been known for aggrresive behaviour? a repeated whispered "sorry" followed by a "i'd love to sit on this fella again"

One thing my father didn't tell me until a couple of days after the race was that Kieren said something along the lines of "i don't think this lad will win today" when he first got up on his back. Ofcourse, that could have meant several different things: he didn't think he was fit, he'd been told about another runner etc etc, but it seemed like a very strange thing for a top jock to say to a groom when he first got the leg up on the horse.

I felt your pain that day

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by saratogabrit

I felt your pain that day

I bet.

I still remember that day like it was yesterday. NSPCC day at the July Course on a baking hot day.

The whole town knew about him because he had been working with outside horses.

Then he went to Lingfield and ran into one too good. By the time he did win he was 4/5 or something stupid

[NoChanceToDance]

From RP.....

by David Ashforth
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KIEREN FALLON on Friday confirmed that he will not ride again until the case being heard at the Old Bailey, in which he is defending a charge of conspiracy to defraud Betfair customers, has reached a conclusion.

Fallon explained: “I have decided not to ride again until this is over. There is too much going on - it is not fair on trainers, and I would struggle to concentrate. It just wouldn't work. By the time I finish here each day, and sit with my legal team for an houror more afterwards, the day is over. Then I have to get up early in the morning to be here the following day. I am fit and will keep fit.”
Fallon added: “The season never really got going for me but winning the Arc was nice - Dylan Thomas was the horse for me.”

Fallon's victory at Longchamp was achieved less than 24 hours before the trial opened.

Following agreement between the various parties on the number of witnesses to be called, it is hoped that the trial, originally expected to last four months, may be completed in a shorter time.

[my miss storm cat]

I'm still getting caught up but this is from RP on Thursday.....


Prosecution witness admits to ‘misleading' statement

by Paul Eacott
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THE opening witness called for the prosecution in the race-fixing trial involving Kieren Fallon and five other men at the Old Bailey on Thursday admitted that part of the statement he gave to police was “downright misleading”.

David O'Reilly, Betfair's legal adviser, returned to the witness box for cross-examination in the delayed afternoon session after earlier telling the court that the accounts controlled by Miles Rodgers were responsible for more than 40 per cent of all lay bets on the horses in question on the exchange in 17 out of the 27 suspect races.

O'Reilly had also said that accounts believed to be operated by Rodgers matched more than 60 per cent of all lay bets on four horses in the races in question – including when Rodgers' own horseLegal Set was beaten at Lingfield on December 30, 2002, the first race under suspicion.

He had told Court 12 that the betting activity on the Rodgers-controlled accounts was responsible for dramatic pre-race drifts on a number of occasions, but later had to admit that this had been misleading as the data supplied to the court for eight of the races had included bets placed in running.

In the statement he gave to police, O'Reilly had said Levitator had been a “good” example of a drifter when he finished second under Fallon at Leicester on June 14, 2004, but under questioning on Thursday admitted he eased only from 13-2 to 8-1 on the exchange before the off, with the highest prices matched by the Rodgers-controlled Betfair accounts of 11-1 coming in running.

Peter Kelson QC, representing Rodgers, said to O'Reilly: “You gave assurances in your statement that Levitator was a good example of drifting, but, in fact, that is not a good example. Would you accept it's downright misleading?”

“Yes, I would accept that,” responded O'Reilly.

The court also heard how only 1.83 per cent – £37.02 – of the money matched by the Rodgers accounts on Cd Europe on February 18, 2003 came at a top price of more than 28-1 (29.14), with the remainder coming at much lower prices. O'Reilly had not mentioned the Cd Europe race in his original statement, it was claimed, and it appeared only in his second statement, dated March 10, 2005, at the request of investigating officers from City of London police.
Earlier, O'Reilly had told the court that Rodgers had held an account with Betfair – and was thought to be using 12 other names – in December 2002. The account registered in the name of his then partner Joanne Richardson was in the top one per cent of Betfair users in volume terms.

O'Reilly said the accounts “frequently bet quite heavily on the same horse in the same race”.

He added: “Nine or ten of these accounts were registered in the Sheffield area. Some were accessed from the same computer and four used the same password.”

He said that the accounts were “generally taking the strong position against the one horse – that that horse will lose”.

This, however, was another claim that was refuted by Kelson, who later told the court that when Rodgers laid the Darren Williams-ridden Chispa to win £1,260 when he finished third at Newcastle on March 24, 2003, he also backed Legal Set, the 5-2 favourite who was ridden by Fergal Lynch and finished second, for £1,750, so in fact lost £490 on the race with Betfair.

The court also heard how Rodgers placed six bets on the phone using the account registered to Richardson, and was never challenged as to why somebody who was evidently male was betting on an account registered to a female. O'Reilly added that this “is something we have subsequently changed”.

Rodgers, who also faces charges under the Proceeds of Crime Act, Fallon, Lynch, Williams and two other men, Shaun Lynch and Philip Sherkle, deny all charges against them.

The case continues on Friday.