Manny

[Mortimer]

None of those guys ever got in 165 runs.



He has played just about half his time in Cleveland so that tosses the Fenway thing...his best years were here,too ...he does stink in the field and on the bases,but is a natural born hitter.

I would think he certainly is in the same class with the first 3....but that's just a predator speaking.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

None of those guys ever got in 165 runs.



He has played just about half his time in Cleveland so that tosses the Fenway thing...his best years were here,too ...he does stink in the field and on the bases,but is a natural born hitter.

I would think he certainly is in the same class with the first 3....but that's just a predator speaking.

Of course if the 165 are taken in context of the brief era of 70 hrs seasons it is not quite so impressive though you could surely make the same case for Bonds

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Of course if the 165 are taken in context of the brief era of 70 hrs seasons it is not quite so impressive though you could surely make the same case for Bonds

I don't think Shirley can.


Which is also why Rameriz is a top 3 guy.

He also should be very close to Gehrigs 23 grand slam record.....but not a big deal.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

None of those guys ever got in 165 runs.



He has played just about half his time in Cleveland so that tosses the Fenway thing...his best years were here,too ...he does stink in the field and on the bases,but is a natural born hitter.

I would think he certainly is in the same class with the first 3....but that's just a predator speaking.

Mau Duw, I agree with Morti...I thought this was impossible...

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by ARyan

Mau Duw, I agree with Morti...I thought this was impossible...

Think Dylan Thomas here.

[ARyan]

If I had to rank the top 10 hitters in baseball as of right now, I think I would have to go with this;

1. David Ortiz
2. Albert Pujols
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Vladimir Guerrero
6. Ryan Howard
7. Matt Holliday
8. Magglio Ordóñez
9. Chase Utley
10. Todd Helton or Ichiro Suzuki

Again, just in my opinion...however, you could swap 3-20 on most lists and probably have a valid arguement for each...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ARyan

If I had to rank the top 10 hitters in baseball as of right now, I think I would have to go with this;

1. David Ortiz
2. Albert Pujols
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Vladimir Guerrero
6. Ryan Howard
7. Matt Holliday
8. Magglio Ordóñez
9. Chase Utley
10. Todd Helton or Ichiro Suzuki

Again, just in my opinion...however, you could swap 3-20 on most lists and probably have a valid arguement for each...

Howard too high though I have a hard time understanding how Arod and Pujols arent 1 and 2

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Howard too high though I have a hard time understanding how Arod and Pujols arent 1 and 2

A-Rod?


You mean Mr. August?

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Howard too high though I have a hard time understanding how Arod and Pujols arent 1 and 2

I would give it to Ortiz because he is so clutch. No better clutch hitter.


Over the last 5 years;

ARod - .300 avg, 28 2B, 2 3B, 44 HR, 126 RBI, .401 OBP

Ortiz - .302 avg, 41 2B, 2 3B, 44 HR, 128 RBI, .401 OBP

Pujols- .336 avg, 42 2B, 1 3B, 42 HR, 121 RBI, .429 OBP


Based on that, I have no problem with Pujols being #1. I would still say ARod is #3, easily.

[Mortimer]

Golly...no love for Jhonny Peralta?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ARyan

I would give it to Ortiz because he is so clutch. No better clutch hitter.


Over the last 5 years;

ARod - .300 avg, 28 2B, 2 3B, 44 HR, 126 RBI, .401 OBP

Ortiz - .302 avg, 41 2B, 2 3B, 44 HR, 128 RBI, .401 OBP

Pujols- .336 avg, 42 2B, 1 3B, 42 HR, 121 RBI, .429 OBP


Based on that, I have no problem with Pujols being #1. I would still say ARod is #3, easily.

The fact that Pujols strikes out far less than both probably helps too.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ARyan

If I had to rank the top 10 hitters in baseball as of right now, I think I would have to go with this;

1. David Ortiz
2. Albert Pujols
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Vladimir Guerrero
6. Ryan Howard
7. Matt Holliday
8. Magglio Ordóñez
9. Chase Utley
10. Todd Helton or Ichiro Suzuki

Again, just in my opinion...however, you could swap 3-20 on most lists and probably have a valid arguement for each...

I'd go more like:
1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Albert Pujols
3. David Ortiz
4. Matt Holliday (Coors Field isn't quite so hitter friendly as it was)
5. Ichiro
6. Hanley Ramirez
7. David Wright
8. Carlos Lee
9. Magglio Ordonez
10. Vladimir Guerrero
11. Miguel Cabrera (just cause I didn't feel right leaving his fatass off)