teuflesberg

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Tberg was a steward scratch on 9/15 at Turfway. Now Jeanine Edwards reports that people at Keeneland were saying he did not look like his old self recently. It appears Sanders will be under heavy scrutiny because of this event. She has been heavily criticized on this board throughout the career of Tberg.

A stewards scratch is much different than a vet scratch

[booner]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

A stewards scratch is much different than a vet scratch

How much difference is there? I see how the vet can stratch a horse; he is right there looking at it. How (and what reasons) would a steward stratch a horse?

[booner]

Also, really sad to hear about Dream of Angels. Feelings go out to the horse and his connections.

Hope Teuflesberg turns out okay.

[Merlinsky]

What the heck is going on at Keeneland? Gold Train just pulled up.

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

What the heck is going on at Keeneland? Gold Train just pulled up.

The propaganda machine will have an answer by Monday.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

What the heck is going on at Keeneland? Gold Train just pulled up.

Gold Train had to be put down.

[freddymo]

Run with the angels baby.. Look at the bright side at least that jerk isn't mis handling you anymore.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Run with the angels baby.. Look at the bright side at least that jerk isn't mis handling you anymore.

While he's not out of the woods, they didn't put him down. Let's hope his surgery goes smoothly and he gets the chance to live out his days in the field.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by booner

How much difference is there? I see how the vet can stratch a horse; he is right there looking at it. How (and what reasons) would a steward stratch a horse?

There a lot of reasons, owner, trainer not licensed, foal papers not on file, wrong shoes, ownership disputes, late to paddock, late shipping, etc.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There a lot of reasons, owner, trainer not licensed, foal papers not on file, wrong shoes, ownership disputes, late to paddock, late shipping, etc.

If there's been the owner/trainer issues(of the non-schizophrenic variety considering she's one of the owners) like I've heard I bet that was it.

Do we think someone at Keeneland commented to try to deflect from the disastrous mess that was today's card thus far with 3 life threatening situations?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

If there's been the owner/trainer issues(of the non-schizophrenic variety considering she's one of the owners) like I've heard I bet that was it.

Do we think someone at Keeneland commented to try to deflect from the disastrous mess that was today's card thus far with 3 life threatening situations?

Who knows? I cant believe that they "reported" it.

Three "life threatening situations"
1 horses never made it out of the paddock so his life is no longer threatened.
1 horse has ran 237 times and has been managed so carefully that I am stunned that he got hurt and I dont know who else's life was threatened.

[Riot]

I dont know who else's life was threatened.

I'm going with story about the track worker's foot that was almost run over by the ambulance.

Although seeing an actual ambulance on the actual track at Keeneland would be a novelty to me.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm going with story about the track worker's foot that was almost run over by the ambulance.

Although seeing an actual ambulance on the actual track at Keeneland would be a novelty to me.

I would love to get hit by the ambulance at Keeneland... I'm sure my credit limit would be increased...

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm going with story about the track worker's foot that was almost run over by the ambulance.

Although seeing an actual ambulance on the actual track at Keeneland would be a novelty to me.

ESPN saying he'll undergo surgery next week - done racing.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Who knows? I cant believe that they "reported" it.

Three "life threatening situations"
1 horses never made it out of the paddock so his life is no longer threatened.
1 horse has ran 237 times and has been managed so carefully that I am stunned that he got hurt and I dont know who else's life was threatened.

How did I know someone was gonna jump on the language of that? Life threatening situations: horse falling over and hitting head, horses taking bad steps and fracturing sesamoids. 3 lives were threatened, whether they survived or not. I figured I wouldn't have to spell out who lived, who died and that wasn't really the point. Clearly some of us have enough time our hands to pick at semantics. If you think Teuflesberg was managed carefully I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Sanders has been criticized by several people..maybe it's in spite of, not because of her. Hardly gives her the 'management of the year' award. Since when is Gold Train not counting in the life threatening (though not any longer, gotta make sure I keep up with the semantics police) category? Makes 3 in my book.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

How did I know someone was gonna jump on the language of that? Life threatening situations: horse falling over and hitting head, horses taking bad steps and fracturing sesamoids. 3 lives were threatened, whether they survived or not. I figured I wouldn't have to spell out who lived, who died and that wasn't really the point. Clearly some of us have enough time our hands to pick at semantics. If you think Teuflesberg was managed carefully I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Sanders has been criticized by several people..maybe it's in spite of, not because of her. Hardly gives her the 'management of the year' award. Since when is Gold Train not counting in the life threatening (though not any longer, gotta make sure I keep up with the semantics police) category? Makes 3 in my book.

ease up Lou Pinella....

[booner]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There a lot of reasons, owner, trainer not licensed, foal papers not on file, wrong shoes, ownership disputes, late to paddock, late shipping, etc.

Most of those you posted I had heard of, but the 'late to paddock' is a new one on me. Makes sense when the stewards do scratch one 10 minutes to post. Interesting.

Thanks for the info.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by booner

Most of those you posted I had heard of, but the 'late to paddock' is a new one on me. Makes sense when the stewards do scratch one 10 minutes to post. Interesting.

Thanks for the info.

Or wrong horse to the paddock...

[booner]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Or wrong horse to the paddock...

I think I remember that happening at Ellis Park 2 years ago.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There a lot of reasons, owner, trainer not licensed, foal papers not on file, wrong shoes, ownership disputes, late to paddock, late shipping, etc.

my good friend and fav jock=) made the trip from remington to BRD to ride 1 day this past week only to have the horse scratched becuz of no papers, LOL what was funny was the horse was in the paddock and everything with 15mtp be4 the scratch occurred.....LOL fucin gyp's. anyways i guess the bush tracks give ya that much wiggle room LOL and as far as ash goes well she got the jocks mount since she was already weighed in and the connections paid her for her gas, but still a wasted 2 hrs there and back thanks to someones incompetence