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Old 09-29-2007, 03:35 AM
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I know that you hate when I use facts but in 1992 (15 years ago) horseplayers in the US had 70393 races on which to bet on. In 2006 there were 51,668 race run. So it would seem that your theory is kind of......wrong?


source of stats-The Jockey Club
Why has this never been brough up. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:44 AM
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THe mid-late 1980s was the peak of the TB production boom that saw nearly 50K horses a year registered. We are now down to something in the lower 30K range. (I'm relying on memory here, since I'm over in England without my library so I could be out a bit.) There were more horses around to fill races in 1992.

PS. the number of races has gone down to accomodate the lesser number of horses born, but the number of stakes races, and especially graded stakes races, has NOT. So we now have the expanded stakes schedules of the 80s, with the lower crop numbers of the 00s.
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:31 AM
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THe mid-late 1980s was the peak of the TB production boom that saw nearly 50K horses a year registered. We are now down to something in the lower 30K range. (I'm relying on memory here, since I'm over in England without my library so I could be out a bit.) There were more horses around to fill races in 1992.

PS. the number of races has gone down to accomodate the lesser number of horses born, but the number of stakes races, and especially graded stakes races, has NOT. So we now have the expanded stakes schedules of the 80s, with the lower crop numbers of the 00s.

Didn't the rules for tax deductions for horse breeding and ownership change about that time?
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:15 PM
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OK, but being no mathematician, but taking 70393 races to bet on, and with your approximate figure of 50,000 horses foaled in the 80's, that would be about 1.40 races per horse foaled.

In last year, with 51,668 races and approximatly 35,000 horses foaled, it is only 1.48 races per horse foaled, which is not a huge difference.

I understand the graded stakes claim, which I totally agree with, but the main complaints are places like Prairie Meadows, Ohio, etc., which don't have the graded stakes element of the argument.

These are only approximate figures, but ones that I have heard either in this thread or stated many times, and if they are off by all means correct me.

Just food for thought...
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