I tell ya

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'll be gentle as I hope you are when the Pack starts losing, but I think the bigger concerns for the Bears are the defense in general and the injuries specifically. I mean, Briggs, Harris and others were being carted off in the second half like the Catholics in the Colosseum. If they are seriously banged up and the D has trouble stopping teams like they did Dallas in the second half, then the Bear's offense is going to be even more under the gun

And we all know how that story goes.

Grossman is still a useless tool, but without any excuse or positive game to point to so far this season.

As long as we're counting on Grossman to perform well for more than one drive each game, we're going to keep getting blasted by any team that can put up 14 points.

Injuries on D are killing us, and Dallas just wore us down last night, in a real bad way.

Jones being gone is obviously hurting like hell. Benson has been running okay, but he's simply not capable of breaking runs like Jones was.

Illustration: Benson's long carry last night was 12 yards. Grossman's godawfully lucky parting of the seas scramble was 12 yards.

Last night was painful to watch, and something is telling me that it's only going to get worse. Someone's got to make a change *cough cough* in a hurry.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

And we all know how that story goes.

Grossman is still a useless tool, but without any excuse or positive game to point to so far this season.

As long as we're counting on Grossman to perform well for more than one drive each game, we're going to keep getting blasted by any team that can put up 14 points.

Injuries on D are killing us, and Dallas just wore us down last night, in a real bad way.

Jones being gone is obviously hurting like hell. Benson has been running okay, but he's simply not capable of breaking runs like Jones was.

Illustration: Benson's long carry last night was 12 yards. Grossman's godawfully lucky parting of the seas scramble was 12 yards.

Last night was painful to watch, and something is telling me that it's only going to get worse. Someone's got to make a change *cough cough* in a hurry.

I think Jones is very good. But he was underpaid and going into his last year at $2.5 mil and the Bears guaranteed Benson something like $18 million. So they got stuck there and were probably smart to get what they could for Jones.

Do you think they'll bench Rex? It will be interesting. TB let Griese go instead of signing him to back up Chris Simms. And Miami cut Griese loose in favor of Jay Fiedler. Scary stuff.

[Bigsmc]

Griese is like many other mediocre QB's in the league. He is capable when he is "on", but not capable of stringing multiple "on" games together. Rex is the same, thus the reason Lovie won't rush to make the change.

Orton = Griese = Rex

They are all the same guy.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Griese is like many other mediocre QB's in the league. He is capable when he is "on", but not capable of stringing multiple "on" games together. Rex is the same, thus the reason Lovie won't rush to make the change.

Orton = Griese = Rex

They are all the same guy.

I'd rather take Griese than Grossman right now. Griese played very well last year when given the chance. I don't think he's a star quarterback by any stretch, and he's obviously not a longterm cure for the problems the Bears are having, but really -- anything is better than Grossman right now. We saw this all last year, that when Grossman gets like this, he just goes off the deep end. The second you think he's as bad as he can get, he turns into a big headcase and gets even worse, ie team getting pummeled last night and him throwing prayers into triple coverage. Griese may not be more talented, but he's a hell of a lot smarter than Grossman is when he's making decisions.

When I'm talking about making a change, I wish they would make a real change, like I dunno, actually getting us a real quarterback. They aren't going back to the Super Bowl or anywhere close when they've got an offense only capable of scoring in the ballpark of 14 points per game. Their defense will win them some with those numbers, but not enough to matter.

[Scav]

Orton actually has the most potential. Has a cannon for an arm and is like 6'5. I would play him over Griese, people forget that he helped win 10 games because he wasn't stupid with the ball.

[Cannon Shell]

They should have kept Jones, made him the QB, cut Rex and played the option like Army and Navy...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

Orton actually has the most potential. Has a cannon for an arm and is like 6'5. I would play him over Griese, people forget that he helped win 10 games because he wasn't stupid with the ball.

That is like saying my maiden 15 has more potential than my 8 claimer...

[Cajungator26]

Things could be worse, Tom...

You could be a Saints fan like me. Talk about a tough season so far... phew.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Scav

Orton actually has the most potential. Has a cannon for an arm and is like 6'5. I would play him over Griese, people forget that he helped win 10 games because he wasn't stupid with the ball.

THIS is KEY...Rex is stupid with the ball, and doesn't appear to have the arm strength needed to split the defenders to get the ball to rec'r!

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

THIS is KEY...Rex is stupid with the ball, and doesn't appear to have the arm strength needed to split the defenders to get the ball to rec'r!

.....and Griese is weaker, but less turnover happy.