More Brits going to Hong Kong (and the USA)

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Last year's Lingfield Derby Trial winner Linda's Lad, ridden by Frankie Dettori when finishing ninth behind Sir Percy in the Derby, has left Andre Fabre for the USA.

Woodbine - September 23rd, 2007 - Race 8
Sky Classic S. - Grade: 2
Estimated Local Post Time: 4:27 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old and Upward
Purse: $300,000
Distance: One And Three Eighth Miles
Surface: Turf

1 Royal Challenger (ON)
Jono C. Jones
Stronach Stables
4 Colt 115
Brian A. Lynch
Adena Springs 15/1

2 Sterwins (ON)
Patrick Husbands
Melnyk Racing Stables Inc.
4 Gelding 115
Malcolm Pierce
Eugene Melnyk 10/1

3 Windward Islands (KY)
Todd Kabel
Sam-Son Farm
3 Gelding 115
Mark R. Frostad
Dr. Steve Kramer & Cozzene Syndicate 15/1

4 Last Answer (ON)
Emile Ramsammy
G.Schickedanz
7 Gelding 123
Michael Keogh
Gustav Schickedanz 8/1

5 Marsh Side (KY)
Emma-Jayne Wilson
Robert S. Evans
4 Colt 115
Michael W. Dickinson
Robert S. Evans 12/1

6 Revved Up (FL)
Eddie Castro
Live Oak Plantation
9 Gelding 115
Christophe Clement
Live Oak Stud 3/1

7 Linda's Lad (GB)
Julien R. Leparoux
Sean Mulryan
4 Colt 115
Eddie Kenneally
The Niarchos Family 8/1

8 Shoal Water (ON)
Robert C. Landry
Sam-Son Farm
7 Gelding 115
Mark R. Frostad
Sam-Son Farm 15/1

9 Pellegrino (BRZ)
Chantal Sutherland
Gary A. Tanaka
8 Horse 117
Roger L. Attfield
Haras Equilia 15/1

10 Eccentric (GB)
David Clark
Gary A. Tanaka
6 Gelding 123
Roger L. Attfield
A. S. Reid 5/1

11 Cloudy's Knight (KY)
Ramsey Zimmerman
Sj Stables LLC
7 Gelding 121
Frank J. Kirby
Jerrold Schwartz 4/1

[NoChanceToDance]

Has he raced out there before this??

Interesting to see that Sean Mulryan still owns him.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Has he raced out there before this??

Interesting to see that Sean Mulryan still owns him.

Not sure... forgot to put him in my VS and i don't have pp's.

Gotta love the old guy, Revved Up but alas..... a nice field.

[my miss storm cat]

Uh oh.

Here, No Chance.

驊綵
It means Elite Champion and it's St. Phillip's new name.

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From SCMP.....

A good idea.


What's in a name? More turnover if identity is revealed

ON THE RAILS, with ALAN AITKEN

In the era of globalisation, the Jockey Club might do well to investigate what can be done about ensuring that overseas punters are aware of the underlying identity of the horses on which they bet.
Particularly with reference to Europe and Australasia, the almost-routine name change horses receive when they arrive in Hong Kong for their new owners often serves to muddy the waters for players in foreign countries.

One good example from Monday's racing is Enthused, who was carving a very promising career as Let's Migrate in Melbourne, including defeat of a subsequent Group One performer at his final start.

Doubtless punters in Australia would be more encouraged to back the horse in his Hong Kong races knowing his previous name, but when they look on the field lists at the name Enthused, it means little to them.

And, of course, there are many, many other similar cases.

One suggestion is that since Hong Kong owners give their horses a Chinese name as well, they should not be allowed to alter the English name, but this column doesn't think that's very fair to owners who have spent significant money to buy the rights, including naming rights, to their horse. Perhaps field listings in other jurisdictions betting on Hong Kong should always carry the extra detail, ex-Let's Migrate (Australia) for example.

It's a small thing, but might add up to some turnover bucks in the commingling future.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Uh oh.

Here, No Chance.

驊綵
It means Elite Champion and it's St. Phillip's new name.

* * *

From SCMP.....

A good idea.


What's in a name? More turnover if identity is revealed

ON THE RAILS, with ALAN AITKEN

In the era of globalisation, the Jockey Club might do well to investigate what can be done about ensuring that overseas punters are aware of the underlying identity of the horses on which they bet.
Particularly with reference to Europe and Australasia, the almost-routine name change horses receive when they arrive in Hong Kong for their new owners often serves to muddy the waters for players in foreign countries.

One good example from Monday's racing is Enthused, who was carving a very promising career as Let's Migrate in Melbourne, including defeat of a subsequent Group One performer at his final start.

Doubtless punters in Australia would be more encouraged to back the horse in his Hong Kong races knowing his previous name, but when they look on the field lists at the name Enthused, it means little to them.

And, of course, there are many, many other similar cases.

One suggestion is that since Hong Kong owners give their horses a Chinese name as well, they should not be allowed to alter the English name, but this column doesn't think that's very fair to owners who have spent significant money to buy the rights, including naming rights, to their horse. Perhaps field listings in other jurisdictions betting on Hong Kong should always carry the extra detail, ex-Let's Migrate (Australia) for example.

It's a small thing, but might add up to some turnover bucks in the commingling future.

It's not a small thing at all. I understand that the new owners pay a lot of money to get these different names, but for someone like myself who has followed a horse for two, three, maybe four years and then all of a sudden it has disappeared off the face of the planet. We don't always hear about horses that have been sold over there. I knew nothing about Kalaman until he had already been out there a couple years.

I don't agree with it, but i know they have every right to do so. However, i do wish they would print their old names as well as their new ones. It would makes it much more appealing to the european racing fan, especially me who would love to follow Hong Kong racing but i don't know who is who out there of the ex european horses.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

It's not a small thing at all. I understand that the new owners pay a lot of money to get these different names, but for someone like myself who has followed a horse for two, three, maybe four years and then all of a sudden it has disappeared off the face of the planet. We don't always hear about horses that have been sold over there. I knew nothing about Kalaman until he had already been out there a couple years.

I don't agree with it, but i know they have every right to do so. However, i do wish they would print their old names as well as their new ones. It would makes it much more appealing to the european racing fan, especially me who would love to follow Hong Kong racing but i don't know who is who out there of the ex european horses.

The part that you're not understanding is the heat the SCMP guys have gotten in the past six months or so from the HKJC.

Sometimes things are worded carefully but at least they published this.

The HKJC isn't thrilled with certain pieces that they've done and as you know they're VERY powerful.

You go, SCMP!

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

The part that you're not understanding is the heat the SCMP guys have gotten in the past six months or so from the HKJC.

Sometimes things are worded carefully but at least they published this.

The HKJC isn't thrilled with certain pieces that they've done and as you know they're VERY powerful.

You go, SCMP!

The HKJC is still run by the Mafia, right?