Cigar was the best horse in the last 30 years

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Well - that's because of the Breeders Cup I would think.

Still, Frankel had to have been a good trainer in 1970 to win a share of the training title there.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Well - that's because of the Breeders Cup I would think.

Still, Frankel had to have been a good trainer in 1970 to win a share of the training title there.

Who said that Frankel wasn't a good trainer?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I'm not posting under the moniker RAGS right now dude - I know you think he's a good trainer.


My point was - he was probably an outstanding trainer in 1970 as well - on the basis of the fact that he won a share of the Saratoga training title.


And that you might have left him out when you said....

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

As a sidebar, let me add that there is really only one trainer from the 60's-70's who is still training and doing well.

Bruce Headley might be another guy - but neither was even close to being as accomplished as Jerkens was back during that time.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'm not posting under the moniker RAGS right now dude - I know you think he's a good trainer.


My point was - he was probably an outstanding trainer in 1970 as well - on the basis of the fact that he won a share of the Saratoga training title.


And that you might have left him out when you said....



Bruce Headley might be another guy - but neither was even close to being as accomplished as Jerkens was back during that time.

I forgot Frankel mainly because he has been a West Coast trainer until recent years. I never considered Bruce Headly as a big trainer. And Polytrack may be the end of him.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And Polytrack may be the end of him.

It funny that a guy who's supposedly had just one fatal breakdown on the racetrack in forty years is the guy having the toughest go of it with the synthetics out West.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It funny that a guy who's supposedly had just one fatal breakdown on the racetrack in forty years is the guy having the toughest go of it with the synthetics out West.

How can they breakdown if they never run? He makes Angel Penna look like a trotting horse trainer.