India shippers??????

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Was an attempt at humor but you're right it was bad form. I apologize to those offended.

I guess it's the result of my feelings on the vast wave of jobs that have been lost in this country by huge corporations that will do everything to squeeze a greater profit at the expense of the American worker....and several calls to US Air and ending up talking to someone in India that has not a clue how to pronounce most statses as well as properly serve the customer.

Sorry,

Spyder

Someone told me privately that you're a decent type and I'm glad to find out for myself that you are.

There's enough hatred in the world... you know? So anything i see as an attack or disrespect, borderline racism etc.... I just have to call the person on it.

Racing is about the horses and so is without borders, to me anyway. That sounds cliche but i can't think of another way to word it.

I do understand that you meant it as humor... I'm not humorless..... but thank you for understanding that it bothered me, why it bothered me, and for taking the time to respond.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Someone told me privately that you're a decent type and I'm glad to find out for myself that you are.

There's enough hatred in the world... you know? So anything i see as an attack or disrespect, borderline racism etc.... I just have to call the person on it.

Racing is about the horses and so is without borders, to me anyway. That sounds cliche but i can't think of another way to word it.

I do understand that you meant it as humor... I'm not humorless..... but thank you for understanding that it bothered me, why it bothered me, and for taking the time to respond.

There is nothing racist about making fun of Ghandi. Lighten up. Your response is what drives the "racist" mentality. I am sure that I am not a racist but oddly found humor in the picture. It is a funny picture. It may have been in poor taste but that is not a crime.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is nothing racist about making fun of Ghandi. Lighten up. Your response is what drives the "racist" mentality. I am sure that I am not a racist but oddly found humor in the picture. It is a funny picture. It may have been in poor taste but that is not a crime.

insensitive racist bastard...

[eajinabi]

Horse did not look like he switched leads.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Horse did not look like he switched leads.

He looks like a $40k claimer over here. Chased a soft pace and was empty. Not exactly a bunch of world beaters in there today. If anyone thinks this is racist or insensitive, I apologize in advance.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He looks like a $40k claimer over here. Chased a soft pace and was empty. Not exactly a bunch of world beaters in there today. If anyone thinks this is racist or insensitive, I apologize in advance.

Look mmsc, you were right

It gets boring when you can predict future posts.

He finished 2nd to Mystical, he is no claimer..... that's for sure.

[eajinabi]

Probably not a claimer type here but who knows. Thought he looked a bit thin in the post parade. He is well traveled and I hope they decide to stick him around and drop him in Allowance company or run him on the poly.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Look mmsc, you were right

It gets boring when you can predict future posts.

He finished 2nd to Mystical, he is no claimer..... that's for sure.

Well the winner of todays race, who was decisively better today, most recently won a pair of $40k claimers. I'm know you are seemingly the all- knowing, European sophisticate but he does not look like much based upon his race today. Of course smart guys like you know more than us uneducated Americans who saw a poor performance from a top horse from a country that you touted "long ago" as the next world superpower in horseracing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GPK

insensitive racist bastard...

insensitive......maybe

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is nothing racist about making fun of Ghandi. Lighten up. Your response is what drives the "racist" mentality. I am sure that I am not a racist but oddly found humor in the picture. It is a funny picture. It may have been in poor taste but that is not a crime.

First of all, I don't think anybody is suggesting that it was a "crime."
Secondly, to say that MMSC's response is "what drives the racist mentality" is, quite frankly, absurd. The picture is a racist, offensive caricature, and MMSC's response was intelligent and articulate.
As for TheSpyder, he came on here and apologized, which I give him credit for doing. A lot of people can't admit to making mistakes....even on the internet. It takes a big person to do that, and he did it without any BS. I think we all know that he didn't mean anything malicious by it, and as far as I am concerned, the matter is over.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by miraja2

First of all, I don't think anybody is suggesting that it was a "crime."
Secondly, to say that MMSC's response is "what drives the racist mentality" is, quite frankly, absurd. The picture is a racist, offensive caricature, and MMSC's response was intelligent and articulate.

As for TheSpyder, he came on here and apologized, which I give him credit for doing. A lot of people can't admit to making mistakes....even on the internet. It takes a big person to do that, and he did it without any BS. I think we all know that he didn't mean anything malicious by it, and as far as I am concerned, the matter is over.

A very well written post.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by miraja2

First of all, I don't think anybody is suggesting that it was a "crime."
Secondly, to say that MMSC's response is "what drives the racist mentality" is, quite frankly, absurd. The picture is a racist, offensive caricature, and MMSC's response was intelligent and articulate.
As for TheSpyder, he came on here and apologized, which I give him credit for doing. A lot of people can't admit to making mistakes....even on the internet. It takes a big person to do that, and he did it without any BS. I think we all know that he didn't mean anything malicious by it, and as far as I am concerned, the matter is over.

You too my friend are a little too sensitive. The picture is NOT racist in any manner. If you want to take offense, then take it. Just because a picture depicts a person of a different race than you, it is not necesarily racist. The "racist mentality" that you too seem to have is when racism is used as a substitute for poor taste. There is a huge difference. Spyder is a nice guy who attempted a little humor. You guys are the ones who turned it into an issue.

There is a Bud light commercial that plays excessively of a guy teaching a class of decidedly non-americans to speak English. There are the typical sterotypes and funny (foreign sounding) pronounciations. That is called humor. Or maybe Budweiser is a racist company too. Maybe it is not your type but it also is not racist. Is Rush Hour 3 a racist movie because Chris Tucker makes Chinese jokes and pokes fun at the way Jackie Chan talks? Maybe I am the politically incorrect one but maybe you should lighten up and stop making the world such a miserable place with all your correctness.

[trifecta124]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You too my friend are a little too sensitive. The picture is NOT racist in any manner. If you want to take offense, then take it. Just because a picture depicts a person of a different race than you, it is not necesarily racist. The "racist mentality" that you too seem to have is when racism is used as a substitute for poor taste. There is a huge difference. Spyder is a nice guy who attempted a little humor. You guys are the ones who turned it into an issue.


There is a Bud light commercial that plays excessively of a guy teaching a class of decidedly non-americans to speak English. There are the typical sterotypes and funny (foreign sounding) pronounciations. That is called humor. Or maybe Budweiser is a racist company too. Maybe it is not your type but it also is not racist. Is Rush Hour 3 a racist movie because Chris Tucker makes Chinese jokes and pokes fun at the way Jackie Chan talks? Maybe I am the politically incorrect one but maybe you should lighten up and stop making the world such a miserable place with all your correctness.

A very well written post.

Now that is offensive.

[TheSpyder]

Offensive, no way. I'll take it with a bake potato...or is it potatoe...let me call the ex-VP.

As for all the hoopla, let's all get together and sing kumbaya and listen to my Chris Rock CD. That'll either get us together or we'll kill each other. Let's settle this.

BTW...that's a joke..OK???

PS: Thanks Chuck...you are the man

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Now that is offensive.

i'll take one of those, medium rare, with a salad please.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You too my friend are a little too sensitive. The picture is NOT racist in any manner. If you want to take offense, then take it. Just because a picture depicts a person of a different race than you, it is not necesarily racist. The "racist mentality" that you too seem to have is when racism is used as a substitute for poor taste. There is a huge difference. Spyder is a nice guy who attempted a little humor. You guys are the ones who turned it into an issue.

There is a Bud light commercial that plays excessively of a guy teaching a class of decidedly non-americans to speak English. There are the typical sterotypes and funny (foreign sounding) pronounciations. That is called humor. Or maybe Budweiser is a racist company too. Maybe it is not your type but it also is not racist. Is Rush Hour 3 a racist movie because Chris Tucker makes Chinese jokes and pokes fun at the way Jackie Chan talks? Maybe I am the politically incorrect one but maybe you should lighten up and stop making the world such a miserable place with all your correctness.

Chuck,
I have a lot of respect for you as a trainer and as a member of this board. I agree with a whole lot of what you say on here. On this issue however, I just think you are wrong. Do I think that Carlos Mencia (the guy from the Budweiser commercials) is an idiot that promotes negative racial stereotypes. As a matter of fact, yes I do. Do I think Budweiser is wrong for using him in those ads? Yes I do. Perhaps white people think the world is a "miserable place" because of all the political correctness. Something tells me that most of the rest of the world would argue that racism has done a bit more to add misery to the world than political correctness. Even though I too am "white," I think I'll side with "them" on this one.
However, I honestly don't see any way that I am going to convince you that I am right here, and frankly I don't think a horse racing message board is even a very good place to get into this type of subject.
I guess it is "agree to disagree" on this subject.

[dellinger63]

The negative stereotypes were out in force dressed everyway from a cast member in alli bahba to a Patel mobster wanna be. And they bet this crap down to 3/5 opening. All left with one thing in common.... All had their ethnically customized Trojan's with them.... LOL don't let the door hit your a $$es on the way out.......

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The negative stereotypes were out in force dressed everyway from a cast member in alli bahba to a Patel mobster wanna be. And they bet this crap down to 3/5 opening. All left with one thing in common.... All had their ethnically customized Trojan's with them.... LOL don't let the door hit your a $$es on the way out.......

Steve...I wanted to bicker with you about this, but Marzak wouldn't shut up today. It's the classic "shoot the messenger"....except the messenger happens to be an India connection. This horse ain't crap....it went through hell to get here and wasn't meant to be.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Chuck,
I have a lot of respect for you as a trainer and as a member of this board. I agree with a whole lot of what you say on here. On this issue however, I just think you are wrong. Do I think that Carlos Mencia (the guy from the Budweiser commercials) is an idiot that promotes negative racial stereotypes. As a matter of fact, yes I do. Do I think Budweiser is wrong for using him in those ads? Yes I do. Perhaps white people think the world is a "miserable place" because of all the political correctness. Something tells me that most of the rest of the world would argue that racism has done a bit more to add misery to the world than political correctness. Even though I too am "white," I think I'll side with "them" on this one.
However, I honestly don't see any way that I am going to convince you that I am right here, and frankly I don't think a horse racing message board is even a very good place to get into this type of subject.
I guess it is "agree to disagree" on this subject.

Dude all I am saying is that you guys jumped on a guy for posting a stupid picture. In calling it racist you actually are part of the problem of blurring the line between actual racism and psuedo-racism. I am well aware of the evils of racism but the tendency to see things that may be in poor taste as racist just fuels the flames.