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Old 09-03-2007, 10:42 AM
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MMSC wouldn't say it, but i will. That picture was racist and i hope it is removed from this thread.
You're right.

I wouldn't say it because it was wrong on so many levels.....

Oh and the comment about taking a stand against and outsourcing?

Okay right... I forgot that is THIS horses fault so lets all take it out on him.

Jesus.

This is racing. This is about racing.

Talk about sportsmanship... the planning and frustration and cost and stress and everything else involved to get this horse over here and there's a little joke or "joke" that shows Ugly American Syndrome at it's finest? You who would not only stereotype but belittle a true icon to millions around the world as well.....

It makes me sick.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:05 PM
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You're right.

I wouldn't say it because it was wrong on so many levels.....

Oh and the comment about taking a stand against and outsourcing?

Okay right... I forgot that is THIS horses fault so lets all take it out on him.

Jesus.

This is racing. This is about racing.

Talk about sportsmanship... the planning and frustration and cost and stress and everything else involved to get this horse over here and there's a little joke or "joke" that shows Ugly American Syndrome at it's finest? You who would not only stereotype but belittle a true icon to millions around the world as well.....

It makes me sick.
I'm with MyMissStormCat and NoChanceto Dance on this one. The picture is the sort of racist crap that we don't need in this country and certainly don't need on this site.
And by the way, if people can't understand why posting that picture and saying that it is a picture of the horse's trainer is racist......I would suggest they figure out what actually constitutes racism. It doesn't only exist in the KKK.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:35 PM
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Was an attempt at humor but you're right it was bad form. I apologize to those offended.

I guess it's the result of my feelings on the vast wave of jobs that have been lost in this country by huge corporations that will do everything to squeeze a greater profit at the expense of the American worker....and several calls to US Air and ending up talking to someone in India that has not a clue how to pronounce most statses as well as properly serve the customer.

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Old 09-03-2007, 02:24 PM
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Was an attempt at humor but you're right it was bad form. I apologize to those offended.

I guess it's the result of my feelings on the vast wave of jobs that have been lost in this country by huge corporations that will do everything to squeeze a greater profit at the expense of the American worker....and several calls to US Air and ending up talking to someone in India that has not a clue how to pronounce most statses as well as properly serve the customer.

Sorry,

Spyder
Thank you for the apology.

I did find the picture of very bad taste.

The American racing fan better used to foreign horses coming over and taking your prize money, and not just from England and Ireland.

Everyone laughs when they see a horse from India, but everyone used to laugh at horses from Hong Kong and Japan, but now people run scared of them.

Everyone has to start from somewhere. In the next 10 years, you'll see many top horses coming from the likes of India and even Turkey (yes, you read it right, i did say Turkey). They are up and coming countries in this game, and if the big racing countries around the world dismiss them as has been done before many of us could look like complete fools.

I understand that the outsourcing of jobs is annoying, but that is our fault not theirs. We want to do no work for as much money as possible, we are greedy. They take what they can get, and for that, i applaud them. I play cricket with a few indian stable lads, not only will they do anything for you if you ask, but they are the most reliable people i know and fantastic horsemen also.
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:21 PM
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I did find the picture of very bad taste.

The American racing fan better used to foreign horses coming over and taking your prize money, and not just from England and Ireland.

Everyone laughs when they see a horse from India, but everyone used to laugh at horses from Hong Kong and Japan, but now people run scared of them.

Everyone has to start from somewhere. In the next 10 years, you'll see many top horses coming from the likes of India and even Turkey (yes, you read it right, i did say Turkey). They are up and coming countries in this game, and if the big racing countries around the world dismiss them as has been done before many of us could look like complete fools.

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You could be right, and no problem if you are.

In the immediate future however, the gambler and handicapper in me says toss 'em from your wagers at American tracks.

For the record, I watched the race today without a wager, hoping the horse would show well.

And further for the record, I thought Mr. Frisky had a great shot at winning the Kentucky Derby some years back.

You live and learn.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:03 PM
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Was an attempt at humor but you're right it was bad form. I apologize to those offended.

I guess it's the result of my feelings on the vast wave of jobs that have been lost in this country by huge corporations that will do everything to squeeze a greater profit at the expense of the American worker....and several calls to US Air and ending up talking to someone in India that has not a clue how to pronounce most statses as well as properly serve the customer.

Sorry,

Spyder
Someone told me privately that you're a decent type and I'm glad to find out for myself that you are.

There's enough hatred in the world... you know? So anything i see as an attack or disrespect, borderline racism etc.... I just have to call the person on it.

Racing is about the horses and so is without borders, to me anyway. That sounds cliche but i can't think of another way to word it.

I do understand that you meant it as humor... I'm not humorless..... but thank you for understanding that it bothered me, why it bothered me, and for taking the time to respond.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:11 PM
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Someone told me privately that you're a decent type and I'm glad to find out for myself that you are.

There's enough hatred in the world... you know? So anything i see as an attack or disrespect, borderline racism etc.... I just have to call the person on it.

Racing is about the horses and so is without borders, to me anyway. That sounds cliche but i can't think of another way to word it.

I do understand that you meant it as humor... I'm not humorless..... but thank you for understanding that it bothered me, why it bothered me, and for taking the time to respond.
There is nothing racist about making fun of Ghandi. Lighten up. Your response is what drives the "racist" mentality. I am sure that I am not a racist but oddly found humor in the picture. It is a funny picture. It may have been in poor taste but that is not a crime.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:16 PM
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There is nothing racist about making fun of Ghandi. Lighten up. Your response is what drives the "racist" mentality. I am sure that I am not a racist but oddly found humor in the picture. It is a funny picture. It may have been in poor taste but that is not a crime.

insensitive racist bastard...
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:38 PM
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Horse did not look like he switched leads.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:47 PM
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insensitive......maybe
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:14 PM
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There is nothing racist about making fun of Ghandi. Lighten up. Your response is what drives the "racist" mentality. I am sure that I am not a racist but oddly found humor in the picture. It is a funny picture. It may have been in poor taste but that is not a crime.
First of all, I don't think anybody is suggesting that it was a "crime."
Secondly, to say that MMSC's response is "what drives the racist mentality" is, quite frankly, absurd. The picture is a racist, offensive caricature, and MMSC's response was intelligent and articulate.
As for TheSpyder, he came on here and apologized, which I give him credit for doing. A lot of people can't admit to making mistakes....even on the internet. It takes a big person to do that, and he did it without any BS. I think we all know that he didn't mean anything malicious by it, and as far as I am concerned, the matter is over.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:29 PM
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First of all, I don't think anybody is suggesting that it was a "crime."
Secondly, to say that MMSC's response is "what drives the racist mentality" is, quite frankly, absurd. The picture is a racist, offensive caricature, and MMSC's response was intelligent and articulate.

As for TheSpyder, he came on here and apologized, which I give him credit for doing. A lot of people can't admit to making mistakes....even on the internet. It takes a big person to do that, and he did it without any BS. I think we all know that he didn't mean anything malicious by it, and as far as I am concerned, the matter is over.
A very well written post.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:34 PM
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First of all, I don't think anybody is suggesting that it was a "crime."
Secondly, to say that MMSC's response is "what drives the racist mentality" is, quite frankly, absurd. The picture is a racist, offensive caricature, and MMSC's response was intelligent and articulate.
As for TheSpyder, he came on here and apologized, which I give him credit for doing. A lot of people can't admit to making mistakes....even on the internet. It takes a big person to do that, and he did it without any BS. I think we all know that he didn't mean anything malicious by it, and as far as I am concerned, the matter is over.
You too my friend are a little too sensitive. The picture is NOT racist in any manner. If you want to take offense, then take it. Just because a picture depicts a person of a different race than you, it is not necesarily racist. The "racist mentality" that you too seem to have is when racism is used as a substitute for poor taste. There is a huge difference. Spyder is a nice guy who attempted a little humor. You guys are the ones who turned it into an issue.

There is a Bud light commercial that plays excessively of a guy teaching a class of decidedly non-americans to speak English. There are the typical sterotypes and funny (foreign sounding) pronounciations. That is called humor. Or maybe Budweiser is a racist company too. Maybe it is not your type but it also is not racist. Is Rush Hour 3 a racist movie because Chris Tucker makes Chinese jokes and pokes fun at the way Jackie Chan talks? Maybe I am the politically incorrect one but maybe you should lighten up and stop making the world such a miserable place with all your correctness.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:22 PM
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I'm with MyMissStormCat and NoChanceto Dance on this one. The picture is the sort of racist crap that we don't need in this country and certainly don't need on this site.
And by the way, if people can't understand why posting that picture and saying that it is a picture of the horse's trainer is racist......I would suggest they figure out what actually constitutes racism. It doesn't only exist in the KKK.
Thanks for your response, Miraja.
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