Am I Wrong?

[FGFan]

Interesting to see what this thread has to say. Well I guess some one from here should respond. I hardly watched yesterday and knew it would either be wonderful things happening or just horrible. I did catch the woman from St. Bernard Housing project whining that they are not rebuilding it. But those are the ones that get attention, mainly hard working people have picked up and regained their lives whether it be in NOLA, or the Miss. Gulf or moved over here to my side of the lake.

So now here's my take on things, from someone that lives here.

Katrina is not just New Orleans it is a 90,000 sq. mile area from Louisiana thru Mississippi and into Alabama, we just get all the attention. Then came Rita to wipe out the rest of the gulf and part of Texas. You should see what is going on in western Louisiana and Eastern Texas.

I will tell you that most of you never want to see the things I saw in the aftermath of Katrina, EVER.
And I will never understand many things that happened, from people not leaving to the government not coming for 4 days. We can get to Achea in 24 hours but couldn't get to the Superdome. I saw the busses lined up on Tuesday in LaPlace and not moving. I watched the helicopters not come until Thursday nite 4 days later.
We have multiple generators so I watched the whole thing on TV, didn't miss one minute, in air conditioning and stocked up for a CAT 5. We knew over here that when they said NOLA was spared the levees would probably fail.

It has been a failure of every governmental agency from the Fed down to our State and local government. Private industry and volunteers are the ones that keep things going. NO red tape just hard work.

However, how anyone can say a major metropolitan city of the United States and one of the oldest settlement in the US should not be rebuilt, well I just don't get that at all.
I expect the people experiencing flooding in the midwest would want their homes and towns rebuilt. Or the people who have losses from mudslides, earthquakes and fires every year. Almost every place in America has some kind of vulnerability. You should hope it never happens to you.
New York and Philly could easily flood in a Cat. 5, should we not rebuild?

I live on the northshore was never going to experience flooding from the man-made disaster of the levees failing, but I'm only 30 minutes out of NOLA, I'm the next town on the interstate. They all came here.

They only show the people biatching because the rest of the hard working folks dont have the time.

Until it happens to you, you don't know how you will think or feel. How many of you responded? I know a few on here that did. Are you prepared? While the pundants from local, state and fed fuss, the citizens suffer.

Easy for those that said it is all the mayor and the governor. Having travelled the world I never dreamed the lack of response and preparedness in the US could happen like this. I've been in military coups and the US came immediately half a world away, but couldnt get to NOLA.

But you should be very aware prior to Katrina no US government agency was ready for a disaster of this magnitude. Now agencies are realizing they are not prepared. You should be very afraid and get prepared. Are you FEMA certified in the event of a disaster of any type in your area, I AM.
We can bomb and rebuild Baghdad every day, but part of America should just die out.....I just don't get it.

For those that responded here and get it, we thank you !

All I can say is....
Do you know what it means to miss New Orleans....I DO.
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Oh and to respond to the topic of the thread, yes you are wrong.

[fpsoxfan]

Umm...I don't miss New Orleans. I heard it was for the most part a dirty place before the flood. I think many people have seen devastation. Do you remember 9/11? Many of my brother firefighters do. My brother firefighters in that skank city in Louisiana were being shot at by a bunch of hoodlums.
The city was built below sea level. The flood only brought attention to the shiathole it was and from all media reports it still is. Prepared for catastrophe? Nope we aren't. Dirty Bomb.....Death and much of it. Chemical attack..the same. Most of these people in New Orleans had a chance to get out and didn't. Why? 1. Lazy.....have had things done for them their whole lives. 2. Entitlement....Come get us Federal government.
3. Money Grubbing...To heck with leaving, we have welfare checks coming tomorrow.

The funny thing about it is the fact this douche bag president goes and visits. What is wrong with him? They hate them there. This dipshiat idiot Mayor rips him constantly. No man, No sympathy here. No Way!!

[Scav]

I really am an idiot for starting this thread.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Scav

I really am an idiot for starting this thread.

I don't think you are an idiot...I just wish I never read it. As you can tell this really gets me going. You have to remember, I'm in a profession(teaching) where I hear excuses and crap all of the time. You have parents who as Bill Cosby says, buy their kids a $300 pair of sneakers, but ask them to pay for a $5 field trip or buy a notebook and it's an infringement on their rights.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by Scav

I really am an idiot for starting this thread.

No Not an idiot. Actually good point. But as some of the others said, when it is home it's home and people want to come back.
And don't believe all you see on CNN or any other media. Parts of the city are coming back. You should plan a trip to THE Fairgrounds when sumwon is here.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by FGFan

No Not an idiot. Actually good point. But as some of the others said, when it is home it's home and people want to come back.
And don't believe all you see on CNN or any other media. Parts of the city are coming back. You should plan a trip to THE Fairgrounds when sumwon is here.

Other than the Spa..it's one of my favorite places to play the horses. That long stretch provides many thrilling finishes. Maybe I'll have to overcome what I've "heard" about the area and pay a visit sometime.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Other than the Spa..it's one of my favorite places to play the horses. That long stretch provides many thrilling finishes. Maybe I'll have to overcome what I've "heard" about the area and pay a visit sometime.

You should... I'm going and am planning to stay in the French Quarter. I can't wait.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

You should... I'm going and am planning to stay in the French Quarter. I can't wait.

Uh OH...another get together in the works.
Now listen we run a tight drunken ship down here..so no fussing and fighting afterwards...everyone is supposed to get in trouble.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Other than the Spa..it's one of my favorite places to play the horses. That long stretch provides many thrilling finishes. Maybe I'll have to overcome what I've "heard" about the area and pay a visit sometime.

Well you should. I'll even give you a tour. Tourists don't know the good spots.
Yes The Fairgounds does provide thrilling races, Especially the stretch. And we have a great jockey colony, good horses and barns, lots of colorful characters and a ball at the Paddock bar.
BTW the French Quarters has a new waste managament team they even spray the streets with perfume now so it's cleaner and smells prettier. But it still is a bawdy laissez la faire town.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by FGFan

Well you should. I'll even give you a tour. Tourists don't know the good spots.
Yes The Fairgounds does provide thrilling races, Especially the stretch. And we have a great jockey colony, good horses and barns, lots of colorful characters and a ball at the Paddock bar.
BTW the French Quarters has a new waste managament team they even spray the streets with perfume now so it's cleaner and smells prettier. But it still is a bawdy laissez la faire town.

I think we're going to book one of these hotels (Prince Conti or Hotel St. Marie)... have you heard of them?

http://valentinoneworleanshotels.com/HotelStMarie.html

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by Scav

I really am an idiot for starting this thread.

damn Scav, nothing like starting a bar fight amongst your buddies and leaving when the first punch gets thrown and then show up afterwards to see how much damage is done.....lmao

[Samarta]

I have tried real hard to play nice on this one because it is a sensitive subject and I do kinda understand where everyone is coming from. The bottom line is race, income level, crime rate, education level, religion, or anything that has to do with the makeup of the city of New Orleans should not be in question period! The only thing that should be in question here is how did this happen in our country?!?

So you get a blizzard (yes I saw the pictures) and let's say it destroys your town. You have no food, no money, no home, and no one is coming to help you, then you are told "oh I know it's where your home is, but you know what, we think you would be better off on a cot in a gym somewhere in Idaho. Oh and don't worry about your things, they're gone, you don't have the blizzard insurance, so you aren't going to get anything for your years of labor, and we really don't know what happened to the rest of your family and neighbors, but hey, good luck to you."

The inconvenience of the winter snows and associated power outages doesn't come close to what those people went through. I lived on the Gulf Coast and went through a pretty significant Hurricane (Elena) and just not having power, water, gas, etc for those 2 weeks was horrible. But again it all comes back to the fact that when a community in our country was in dire need of help, the people that were elected to provide that help were not there to answer the call.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by Samarta

The only thing that should be in question here is how did this happen in our country?!? EXACTLY, for the life of me I will never understand it.

Oh and don't worry about your things, they're gone, you don't have the blizzard insurance, so you aren't going to get anything for your years of labor, and we really don't know what happened to the rest of your family and neighbors, but hey, good luck to you." People with lots of insurance got left with nothing. And we are screwed, I'm afraid to change my insurance company even though I've never made a claim

The inconvenience of the winter snows and associated power outages doesn't come close to what those people went through. I lived on the Gulf Coast and went through a pretty significant Hurricane (Elena) and just not having power, water, gas, etc for those 2 weeks was horrible. But again it all comes back to the fact that when a community in our country was in dire need of help, the people that were elected to provide that help were not there to answer the call.

We were prepared, and went 2 weeks without power. Florida got reimbursed for gas the year before but they decided on Katrina they weren't reimbursing us. I spent over $1000 to run generators and help the older folks around here that just couldn't deal with going to Baton Rouge to get supplies. We were fine though, people came to our house but it cost a small fortune to keep things going. Jeb Bush's state got gas reimbursement but we couldn't.

Uh did you not get the memo were all drinking beer now and giving up on how our country sucked in it's moment to shine?

[Danzig]

it's odd that the media continues to chase a story that isn't there. the workers, the ones who are motivated, are rebuilding. but the ones being interviewed are the ones who took handouts before, and want to continue to do so now. they aren't the ones who will rebuild, as they aren't builders! they are takers, not workers.
the workers don't get interviewed, as they are busy building. as for depending on the govt, they don't get anything right, so why would they get this right? when a disaster is headed your way (and it's not like hurricanes pop up out of nowhere) make a plan and prepare. but those sucking from the govt teat know nothing other than to continue to expect to be taken care of.

'they' should rebuild--but 'they' isn't the govt--'they' are the people actually rebuilding--not waiting for grants, loans, subsidies, and red tape being cut. new orleans is probably a mistake, but other cities and countries exist in that type of environment, and new orleans can as well. hopefully, this time they get it right.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I heard it was for the most part a dirty place before the flood. You heard, but you don't know.


I think many people have seen devastation. I think your very wrong, YOU may have as a firefighter, but most people haven't.

Do you remember 9/11? Sure do, people I KNOW died there too. And I know many that responded. But 16 blocks compared to 90,000 sq. miles.

My brother firefighters in that skank city in Louisiana were being shot at by a bunch of hoodlums. Your brother firefighters are still here working hard. Maybe your brother firefighters should help them as ours did in the aftermath of 911.

The city was built below sea level. Not my home I live on the northshore did you read my post?

The flood only brought attention to the shiathole it was and from all media reports it still is. Prepared for catastrophe? Nope we aren't. Then you should be especially as a firefighter. Isn't it now a requiste you go through FEMA training..all the firefighters I know are required. Hope you don't have a disaster in your area.

Dirty Bomb.....Death and much of it. Chemical attack..the same. Most of these people in New Orleans had a chance to get out and didn't. Your wrong over 1.5 millions people evacuated, 3 weeks later Texas couldn't evacuate Houston.

Why? 1. Lazy.....have had things done for them their whole lives. 2. Entitlement....Come get us Federal government.
3. Money Grubbing...To heck with leaving, we have welfare checks coming tomorrow. Happens all over the US. Bet you have federal subsidy in your upstate rural town.

The funny thing about it is the fact this douche bag president goes and visits. What is wrong with him? They hate them there. This dipshiat idiot Mayor rips him constantly. No man, No sympathy here. No Way!!
Sympathy...guess you really didnt read my post.

Hope your glass house never shatters. Oh that's right you as a firefighter are not prepared. And we won't have to worry about helping anyone rebuild, New York or LA or Philly, or anywhere in the US.

All I'm saying is that for a country as great as ours we should be able to handle disasters in a more efficient manner. But we are not prepared. Thankfully that is changing as a result of Katrina/Rita.
As I said I have been all over the world, I love the US, I choose to settle here near NOLA, that could change. But I still LOVE New Orleans and I miss what it used to be as I would miss New York, Philly, DC, LA, San Fran, Chicago and many other cities around this world.
Poverty is here in the US,all over the US, drug addicts exist and old people need help. If we can police and rescue the world we should do the same for our own citizens.
I'm going to watch the Saints game now.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by FGFan

Hope your glass house never shatters. Oh that's right you as a firefighter are not prepared. And we won't have to worry about helping anyone rebuild, New York or LA or Philly, or anywhere in the US.

All I'm saying is that for a country as great as ours we should be able to handle disasters in a more efficient manner. But we are not prepared. Thankfully that is changing as a result of Katrina/Rita.
As I said I have been all over the world, I love the US, I choose to settle here near NOLA, that could change. But I still LOVE New Orleans and I miss what it used to be as I would miss New York, Philly, DC, LA, San Fran, Chicago and many other cities around this world.
Poverty is here in the US,all over the US, drug addicts exist and old people need help. If we can police and rescue the world we should do the same for our own citizens.
I'm going to watch the Saints game now.

I'm sure by now you read my other post. I'm once again sorry for your devastation and here's hoping you make a fully recovery. I will tell you again that we are in no way prepared for a chemical/biological catastrophe. God forbid it ever happens.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by FGFan

Hope your glass house never shatters. Oh that's right you as a firefighter are not prepared. And we won't have to worry about helping anyone rebuild, New York or LA or Philly, or anywhere in the US.

All I'm saying is that for a country as great as ours we should be able to handle disasters in a more efficient manner. But we are not prepared. Thankfully that is changing as a result of Katrina/Rita.
As I said I have been all over the world, I love the US, I choose to settle here near NOLA, that could change. But I still LOVE New Orleans and I miss what it used to be as I would miss New York, Philly, DC, LA, San Fran, Chicago and many other cities around this world.
Poverty is here in the US,all over the US, drug addicts exist and old people need help. If we can police and rescue the world we should do the same for our own citizens.
I'm going to watch the Saints game now.

Geaux Saints!

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Geaux Saints!

HaHa, where winning, had to turn the TV on back here, little tv not my 65" hd...
Sean Peyton rocks....

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by FGFan

HaHa, where winning, had to turn the TV on back here, little tv not my 65" hd...
Sean Peyton rocks....

Hell yeah he does (I love Drew Brees too )... I'm watching LSU as well.

Oh, and for those who haven't seen this (it's on my myspace page too):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seGhTWE98DU

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Let me ask you something. Just because you hear stuff, does that mean it's true? Have you ever been to New Orleans? And no one asked for your sympathy. But you seem to want sympathy because you had no power last year because of snow. Come on. Hitting the sauce tonight?

No Hoss...Just a real sensitive topic with me. I just read his post again and made a little more sense out of it and was attempting to respond in a little more of a resonable manner but since you ask....

1. Two years ago(before the flood) I had family members who have traveled the country together tell me that New Orleans was by far the most disgusting city they've ever visited.

2. My power was fine during the storm because Fort Plain is not in the snowbelt. I have several people I know that live in those areas. But, as I'm sure you remember we were hit with a blizzard in February. But, unlike the people in New Orleans, we prepared for it.

3. You've never heard me ask for sympathy and most likely never will.