Am I crazy?? Street Sense's next start

[philcski]

The Mass Cap would be the easiest of the spots, but the Hawthorne race makes a lot of "sense".

The horse could train on the Moon for all I care, he's still going to find a way to win the BC.

[Scav]

I'll tell you this, he goes to Hawthorne it will be my 2nd visit ALL TIME to that dump, it should simulate Monmouth pretty good with the way speed holds in the fall meet.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

I'll tell you this, he goes to Hawthorne it will be my 2nd visit ALL TIME to that dump, it should simulate Monmouth pretty good with the way speed holds in the fall meet.

You know how to get there?

[Scav]

LOL...yes. Getting there and back is easy, wandering around down there is what causes problems.

[AeWingnut]

I've been to Hawthorne

I don't think it is safe

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Scav

I'll tell you this, he goes to Hawthorne it will be my 2nd visit ALL TIME to that dump, it should simulate Monmouth pretty good with the way speed holds in the fall meet.

Hopefully the speed bias wouldn't be in full effect at that point in the fall -- it might not be cold enough for it to be as obnoxiously pronounced yet. It really takes full effect sometime in November/early December as the temperature drops like mad.

With that said -- I'd be sure to make a trip down to Hawthorne to see that one.

[Pointg5]

I think we saw the last of Street Sense yesterda...AGS will light him up at Monmouth...

[miraja2]

I thought after the great "success" they had with it on the day of the '06 Illinois Derby, that Hawthorne was going to become exclusively an ostrich racetrack.

It would be dissapointing for Street Sense to run at the bush league tracks like Hawthorne, Suffolk, Turdway and Lousyana. The logical choice is the JCGC at Belmont.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

It would be dissapointing for Street Sense to run at the bush league tracks like Hawthorne, Suffolk, Turdway and Lousyana. The logical choice is the JCGC at Belmont.

Potentially running against Curlin in the JCGC is really quite an illogical move. If SS beats Curlin in the JCGC and then loses to him in the BC Classic, does that not sway many voters?

NT

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Potentially running against Curlin in the JCGC is really quite an illogical move. If SS beats Curlin in the JCGC and then loses to him in the BC Classic, does that not sway many voters?

NT

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I'm just a racing fan. I don't give a **** about awards and popularity contests.

[viscount26]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

It would be dissapointing for Street Sense to run at the bush league tracks like Hawthorne, Suffolk, Turdway and Lousyana. The logical choice is the JCGC at Belmont.

And as I live 15 mims from Belmont. That would be my choice too

[Slewbopper]

[quote=Cardus]It's sad that if he were to run at any of the above "bush league tracks" for his next race, each track would probably have a larger attendance than Belmont's Jockey Club Gold Cup Day on Sept. 30. Each venue might have a 20,000 plus attendance if Street Sense were to run there.

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NYRA will have 16,000 with Street Sense AND a giveaway and have to face Curlin. The Super Derby is the logical choice. Calvin gets to race at home. the purse goes from 500K to a mil. The place will be packed. Plus, four 3 yos that I can think of have done quite well going from the SD to the BCC...Sunday, Unbridled, Concern, and Tiznow.

If Carl is going to run him again before the BCC, the SD to me, is a no brainer.

Originally Posted by Cardus

It's sad that if he were to run at any of the above "bush league tracks" for his next race, each track would probably have a larger attendance than Belmont's Jockey Club Gold Cup Day on Sept. 30. Each venue might have a 20,000 plus attendance if Street Sense were to run there.

What disturbs me is that Gold Cup Day is Sept.30, a Sunday. Though it's true that a Sunday at Belmont Park -- deemed "Family Fun Day" -- usually draws as many if not more people than Saturdays draw, NYRA is going up against the NFL.

Track attendance means diddly squat. The handle at Belmont would dwarf Lousiana.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cardus

What disturbs me is that Gold Cup Day is Sept.30, a Sunday. Though it's true that a Sunday at Belmont Park -- deemed "Family Fun Day" -- usually draws as many if not more people than Saturdays draw, NYRA is going up against the NFL.

That's ok because both the Jets and Giants will be done by then

[viscount26]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That's ok because both the Jets and Giants will be done by then

Good to see that Chuck. I can't wait to stick it to all the frigging Jet fans I have to contend with every Sunday in Austin's Ale House. Lets go Pats!!!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cardus

GFY, Chuck, GFY!

Go Big Blue!

OK, They will be around for at least another week.

Giants 4-12
Jets 6-10

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

How come? What didn't he do yesterday that he should have?

Pure speculation, but I think he's going bad, they probably knew he could make it through the Derby and that's why he didn't start until March and only had 2 preps... They said all along they wanted this race as well. I think yesterday was his BCC.

Grasshopper might be a nice horse and got away with slow fractions, but SS should have not had as much trouble getting past him. I love the horse and have to commend both Nafzger and Borel, but I would be surprised to see him run again. I don't think he could beat AGS right now and what more is there to prove for him?

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Pure speculation, but I think he's going bad, they probably knew he could make it through the Derby and that's why he didn't start until March and only had 2 preps... They said all along they wanted this race as well. I think yesterday was his BCC.

Grasshopper might be a nice horse and got away with slow fractions, but SS should have not had as much trouble getting past him. I love the horse and have to commend both Nafzger and Borel, but I would be surprised to see him run again. I don't think he could beat AGS right now and what more is there to prove for him?

Street Sense ran him usual 105-110 beyer. That is good enough to win grade 1's. Some others are catching up with him, but he isn't going backwards. He is what he is, a 110 beyer horse. A 110 beyer could easily win the Classic this year.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you are way off. People on here and other forums said similar things after they decided to not go in the Belmont. Well, he's won twice since then. We also heard so many times before the Derby, that he should not have lost the Bluegrass, etc. I really don't see how his effort yesterday shows anything you are saying.

We'll see...


I think he's finished, he's won the BCJ, Derby, and Travers...There's no more upside, only downside to running him...