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Old 08-25-2007, 04:32 PM
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:41 PM
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I thought First Defence ran very well. What was it his 4th career start. Unfortunatley, that is the first time he has been eye to eye with another horse in the stretch. I saw him at Monmouth and he looked amazing, on and off the track. With a little more seasoning I think he could be a special one.
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:08 PM
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Nice effort by Hard Spun but he didn't beat much. Grasshopper may have jumped him too as far as 3yr olds that stand a shot in the classic.

Hopefully HS will go to the BCS not the Classic.
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:10 PM
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He belongs in the Breeders Cup Dirt Mile on Friday, not the Classic on Saturday. Not a chance of winning at 10f but he could win the 8f contest.
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:21 PM
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I dont care who he beat...
21.9 44.2 fractions for a 7f race. Those are extremely tough fractions on a very hot humid day. And he very close to the pace, led got headed and then won the blasted race. Tough animal. Very tough.
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:25 PM
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I thought he was through when First Defence came to him. Showed alot of heart.
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:24 PM
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I strongly disagree with you. . . Hard Spun beat some very talented sprinters today. . .

I do agree, however, that he has no chance in the BCC. . . The mile would be a good spot for him depending on who goes. The only problem is that it lacks the prestige and purse money of the Classic.
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:30 PM
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I strongly disagree with you. . . Hard Spun beat some very talented sprinters today. . .

I do agree, however, that he has no chance in the BCC. . . The mile would be a good spot for him depending on who goes. The only problem is that it lacks the prestige and purse money of the Classic.
He beat some nice ones and he showed he is a gutsy horse but there weren't too many in there that I consider grade 1 material.
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Old 08-25-2007, 05:35 PM
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He beat some nice ones and he showed he is a gutsy horse but there weren't too many in there that I consider grade 1 material.
I think Hard Spun probably beat more than Street Sense today except for maybe Grasshopper. . .
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:38 PM
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I just realized why Hard Spun isn't going to go to the dirt mile. Discreet Cat. Probably couldn't win the sprint either. Classic might be his best bet. He could hold on for something like 2nd or 3rd with the right trip at Monmouth.
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:10 PM
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I do agree, however, that he has no chance in the BCC. . .
Yes -- loose speed is just so horrible at Monmouth -- and one of the leading BC Classic contenders in Street Sense really did overwhelm the mighty Grasshoper (a son of Dixie Union with very limited route foundation going 10 furlongs for the first time)

How did Hystericalady look at Monmouth today by the way?
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:35 PM
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i think hard spun has a solid chance in the bcc. go for the glory, hell with that dirt mile crap.
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:16 PM
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How can you not love that effort? Come on, you all thought he was a beat horse!
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:21 PM
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Yes -- loose speed is just so horrible at Monmouth -- and one of the leading BC Classic contenders in Street Sense really did overwhelm the mighty Grasshoper (a son of Dixie Union with very limited route foundation going 10 furlongs for the first time)

How did Hystericalady look at Monmouth today by the way?
Considering I had her (and 4 others) to complete the pick 5 at Monmouth today, I was rooting for a longer price obviously, but the pace was very soft for a filly of her quality. When they let her go :48 to the half the field had no chance. Still, a nice filly who might be the 3rd choice in the Distaff at this point behind R2R and Nashoba's Key.
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:21 PM
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Yes -- loose speed is just so horrible at Monmouth -- and one of the leading BC Classic contenders in Street Sense really did overwhelm the mighty Grasshoper (a son of Dixie Union with very limited route foundation going 10 furlongs for the first time)
I don't like Street Sense in the BC either. . . And I'm not convinced he'd get the loose lead that you predict. There will be all this talk before the race (if he goes) about how Hard Spun will get easy fractions yada yada and some jock or owner will decide to run with him early. Right now I love AGS in the BC if Pletcher can get him properly prepped. . .
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:21 PM
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He belongs in the Breeders Cup Dirt Mile on Friday, not the Classic on Saturday. Not a chance of winning at 10f but he could win the 8f contest.
i wouldn't blame them if they took a shot at the classic, at Monmouth he could go a long way.
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