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Old 08-22-2007, 04:08 PM
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CP West to turn in a hell of an effort here to nip SS 2 steps before the wire.
At least thats how I have it.
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:42 PM
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what do the sheets say about this race
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:02 PM
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It's not like anyone should be real suprised. We've known for weeks that this race was going to come up short. The rest of the card looks outstanding. Full fields, nice turf races and a very interesting Kings Bishop. The Travers has the Kentucky Derby Winner that is trained by a classy guy and ridden by a guy who's added a little excitement to the meet. So fill up your coolers with your favorite beverage and enjoy yourself. I know I'm going to.
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:33 PM
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nafzger says he's afraid of sightseeing in here. i can understand why. hope that shug wins another travers!
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:37 PM
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I love Grasshopper, but I'm afraid he might become the wiseguy horse. Hoping for 6/1 or greater.
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Old 08-22-2007, 11:41 PM
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I like Street Sense, he looks solid.
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Old 08-22-2007, 11:45 PM
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Street Sense over Sightseeing straight exacta. Let's say it pays $6. Hey a $40 investment would get $240. That's what I'm planning to play.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:21 AM
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Grasshopper looked good last time, i think he has a shot.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:47 AM
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I like Street Sense here but I really think Looseleaf will be the surprise.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:07 PM
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CP West to turn in a hell of an effort here to nip SS 2 steps before the wire.
At least thats how I have it.
How is C P West going to nip SS at the wire? C P West should be on the lead the whole time and I highly doubt he'll be coming back at the end if SS passes him...

If anything, it will be SS nipping C P West at the wire.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:11 PM
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How is C P West going to nip SS at the wire? C P West should be on the lead the whole time and I highly doubt he'll be coming back at the end if SS passes him...

If anything, it will be SS nipping C P West at the wire.
Its not like it hasn't been done before though.
Curlin came back and nipped Street Sense at the wire after having been passed by him.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:16 PM
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Its not like it hasn't been done before though.
Curlin came back and nipped Street Sense at the wire after having been passed by him.
I don't remember Curlin being the pace the whole time during the Preakness. I believe C P West will be up front most if not all of the way, and I think it'll be a bit tougher to come back after 10 furlongs. Do you think otherwise?
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:27 PM
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I don't remember Curlin being the pace the whole time during the Preakness. I believe C P West will be up front most if not all of the way, and I think it'll be a bit tougher to come back after 10 furlongs. Do you think otherwise?
no, but regardless of the pace i was pointing out that someone had came back to nip him which should not have happened if you ask me.

i really expect CP to be the pace setter and the whole complexion of the race will depend on what kind of pace he is allowed to set and how much stamina he has. he showed big improvement last time out.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:37 PM
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no, but regardless of the pace i was pointing out that someone had came back to nip him which should not have happened if you ask me.

i really expect CP to be the pace setter and the whole complexion of the race will depend on what kind of pace he is allowed to set and how much stamina he has. he showed big improvement last time out.
Agreed... and so did Sightseeing. I doubt I'll play this race... if anything, I'll probably put some win money on Grasshopper because I think he's a good horse (not sure how good yet, though.)
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:59 PM
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Chocolate, Vanilla...Right Doc?
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:11 PM
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Agreed... and so did Sightseeing. I doubt I'll play this race... if anything, I'll probably put some win money on Grasshopper because I think he's a good horse (not sure how good yet, though.)
I think a win bet on anybody not named Street Sense is a poor bet in this race. He is about as likely a winner as you could possibly have in a race. ALL of his last five races on dirt are better than ANY of the others here have EVER run in their entire careers, and there is literally no reason to think that he is vulnerable in this spot. If he can track down Hard Spun when that one was loose on the lead going 10f, I am sure he can handle CP West or Grasshopper even if a favorable pace scenario develops for those colts.
Actually, depending on what the board does, a win bet on Street Sense might actually be where the value (albeit not much) is here. I doubt if it will happen but if he goes off at his 3/5 ML in this race, I think there is some value there. He is a 1/9 shot if ever there was one.
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