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Old 08-17-2007, 12:14 AM
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If poly is managed peoperly, it can be the best surface in the world.
Not to watch or wager on. This years Blue Grass was the ugliest Grade 1 race I have ever witnessed. Nothing is more boring than watching crawlfest paces with bunched fields, Euro style. The ugliest graded sprint? No question it was In Summations recent win.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:52 AM
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I sense that some of you guys cannot take change very well. Polytrack is here to stay and it is a good surface, if your tracks managed it correctly it would be altogether different.

Sure it won't be as quick as dirt, and nor will it be so harsh on horses. Get used to it, if you find it difficult to bet on, don't bet on it....... is anyone making you?

Stop blaming the surface and start blaming the tracks, if they looked after it you would see a massive surface. I have seen just how good Polytrack is over the last five or so years to know that it isn't the surface causing all of these problems in America.
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Old 08-17-2007, 05:01 AM
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I sense that some of you guys cannot take change very well. Polytrack is here to stay and it is a good surface, if your tracks managed it correctly it would be altogether different.

Sure it won't be as quick as dirt, and nor will it be so harsh on horses. Get used to it, if you find it difficult to bet on, don't bet on it....... is anyone making you?

Stop blaming the surface and start blaming the tracks, if they looked after it you would see a massive surface. I have seen just how good Polytrack is over the last five or so years to know that it isn't the surface causing all of these problems in America.
Yeah I totally agree, great post.

Have to say I've had very little experience with the surface though, the only time I've seen it live was when I was on a family holiday in the UK in 2005 and went out to Lingfield. But that was a totally awesome day, the track was absolutely beautiful and winners were coming from all over the place - a couple of horses led all the way, some came from the back, some burst through from midfield.

And not only that, but the best horses were winning - one of the races was won by a horse called Cesare.

I hope it ends up exactly the same at the US tracks.

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Old 08-18-2007, 11:18 AM
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2 more breakdowns friday. Looks like its time for a reality check.
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:28 AM
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2 more breakdowns friday. Looks like its time for a reality check.
It is actually one breakdown. The Tomillo horse broke down and the other horse, the 7 actually tried to jump that horse.

I wouldn't look too much into Tomillo's breakdown. It is the owner of Lord of the Game, who took all the cash that horse won them and got 10k claimers(others people garbage) and now they run all of them for 4k. Almost all of Tomillo's horses are sore and beaten down, IMO.

But yeah, they are still going to break down on this stuff, the breakdown from the other day that injured Penalba was much worse from a sight perspective
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:47 AM
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i think we should have a debate between the bid and sumitas on the issue of polytrack.
ought to be entertaining.
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:49 AM
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i think we should have a debate between the bid and sumitas on the issue of polytrack.
ought to be entertaining.
There is no debate needed, The Bid has tunnel vision and cannot, for some reason, accept change.

Why would the near exact same surface be so good over here but yet so bad over there? I will tell you why. Because our tracks that have Poly can maintain and mamnge it properly, making it one of the best artificial surfaces a horse can race on.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:08 PM
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But yeah, they are still going to break down on this stuff, the breakdown from the other day that injured Penalba was much worse from a sight perspective
Which one with Penalba?
With Arlington off TVG can't keep up with Arlington as much as I used to.

And agreed that the problems seem to be with lower level claimers, and as you said with horses that are claimed then dropped and run back.

Yeah, no matter what you do there are always going to be breakdowns whether it is the track, the horse, bad management by owners or trainers.
But I don't find Arlington as hard to figure out as Del Mar or Keeneland.

I miss Arlington on TV.....
BTW How are the jocks?
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:47 AM
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2 more breakdowns friday. Looks like its time for a reality check.
A reality check on the track, not the surface. Stop blaming the surface when it has nothing to do with it!

You don't like Poly, you have expressed that, but judging what people have been saying about your posts you have been making up many of these "break downs".

From what i have heard, many of the horses that have "broken down" are horses that looked to be in bad condition anyway, so you may want to blame some trainers and the track rather than the brilliant surface.

If Arlington aren't managing it properly, it becomes their fualt. Nothing else. Or can't you understand that?
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:07 PM
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i like the cushion track better than poly.

hope to see more tracks go to it then poly.
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