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Old 08-10-2007, 12:11 PM
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If Manduro doesn't run to his ability for whatever reason, Turtle Bowl may well pick up the pieces, but i cannot see him beating Manduro.
Way to cover your ass. If he wins you told us so, if he loses then you've already built in the excuse that he didn't run to his ability.
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:15 PM
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Way to cover your ass. If he wins you told us so, if he loses then you've already built in the excuse that he didn't run to his ability.
It's the same with any race. Horses are not machines, they all have 'off' days. He really should win and win well.

I'm not saying that will be the excuse, but in my eyes the only way i can see him beaten is if he has an 'off' day. If he gets beaten a nose or something like that, then he will probably have been beaten by a better horse on the day.

No one can doubt that fact that he is the best horse in the race BY FAR. On ratings he is the best horse on turf in the world.
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:17 PM
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Even if he runs 5lbs below his best, he should still win.

He will have to run a LONG way below his ability to get beaten. There, is that better??????

Probably not.
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:22 PM
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The race should revolve around Manduro, Lawman and Turtle Bowl. All three seem to like good ground rather than soft, so they should have their ground conditions. Turtle Bowl and Lawman are probably better milers than Manduro, but he should have too many guns for both of them, especially with a pacemaker making sure they go a good gallop.
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Is Manduro still BCC bound?
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:24 PM
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Is Manduro still BCC bound?
I'm not sure. They are keeping their cards very close to their chest. I'm not sure how he will handle the dirt, but that is the same for all of our top horses. I think they should at least give it a try.

I'd prefer that they didn't run him in the Arc because the combination of soft ground and 12 furlongs will probably be too much for him.
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Way to cover your ass. If he wins you told us so, if he loses then you've already built in the excuse that he didn't run to his ability.
i think nc2d
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:46 PM
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:49 PM
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Coral bookmakers have him listed at 50-1 to win on sunday and follow up by winning the Arc and BCC..

Anyway, I think they are pointing him towards the Arc and will decide after if he can take the BCC. AT least he is in the right hands. Fabre knows what it takes. I believe that you need a tough horse to take to dirt and Manduro certainly has that profile despite his breeding (well not too many Monsuns have tried dirt Im sure!). He should win on Sunday with the aid of a pacemaker. He's much better than last year!!
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:17 PM
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Coral bookmakers have him listed at 50-1 to win on sunday and follow up by winning the Arc and BCC..

Anyway, I think they are pointing him towards the Arc and will decide after if he can take the BCC. AT least he is in the right hands. Fabre knows what it takes. I believe that you need a tough horse to take to dirt and Manduro certainly has that profile despite his breeding (well not too many Monsuns have tried dirt Im sure!). He should win on Sunday with the aid of a pacemaker. He's much better than last year!!
He came up against a lot of very good horses last year. I had my biggest bet of the year on him in the Earl Of Sefton in the spring, he didn't disappoint.

As you say i doubt many, if any Monsun's have tried dirt. It's got that he handles faster ground, because most of them need it softer than soft usually. I'd love to see him in the BCC, i think a strongly run 10 furlongs will be his best trip. I'm not convinced that 12 furlongs will suit him that well.
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:45 AM
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Well today Manduro lived up to his billing.
He won with Holocene second and Turtle Bow third.
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