Prix Jacques Le Marois

[brockguy]

Manduro has the pacemaker in.. Looks all set..

[NoChanceToDance]

The rest of the field with just hear a whoosh........... he will have finished, collected his prize money and will be eating his hay by the time the others finish......


Okay, it won't be that easy, but i hope it is.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by brockguy

Manduro has the pacemaker in.. Looks all set..

Pretty nice rabbit, no? I'll laugh my a*s off if Toylsome accidentally wins.

Anyway, I'll take Turtle Bowl to upset here....

Come home safe everyone.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Pretty nice rabbit, no? I'll laugh my a*s off if Toylsome accidentally wins.

Anyway, I'll take Turtle Bowl to upset here....

Come home safe everyone.

On his Royal Ascot performance, i wouldn't be surprised for a bold showing, he was only a head off Ramonri and the form looks solid.

That may have been a fluke, but he has the ability.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

On his Royal Ascot performance, i wouldn't be surprised for a bold showing, he was only a head off Ramonri and the form looks solid.

That may have been a fluke, but he has the ability.

It wasn't a fluke.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

It wasn't a fluke.

Well, we won't really know that until after this race. I was a much improved effort than many of his previous efforts. He was beaten out of sight almost by Manduro on his previous start, and then you have to go a long way back to his Prix Jean Prat victory to find his next best form.

It was certainly a big surprise to see him so close at Royal Ascot.

If that wasn't a fluke, he should hit the board in my opinion, but i cannot see him beating Manduro

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Well, we won't really know that until after this race. I was a much improved effort than many of his previous efforts. He was beaten out of sight almost by Manduro on his previous start, and then you have to go a long way back to his Prix Jean Prat victory to find his next best form.

It was certainly a big surprise to see him so close at Royal Ascot.

If that wasn't a fluke, he should hit the board in my opinion, but i cannot see him beating Manduro

I don't have to go a long way back..... his run at Ascot aside, he's been first or 2nd in his last 8 starts.

He's a damned good and constantly overlooked horse and i hope he destroys the field and the others hear your "whooosh".

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I don't have to go a long way back..... his run at Ascot aside, he's been first or 2nd in his last 8 starts.

He's a damned good and constantly overlooked horse and i hope he destroys the field and the others hear your "whooosh".

Yes, he has finished 1st or second, but in MUCH weaker races. Have you even looked at the form or just the figures by his name?

After his Prix Jean Prat win he finished a long way behind Laverock in another group one, and that is hardly form to suggest he will be winning this. After that he dropped to Gr3 company, and he was only second, he was then dropped further in grade, down to listed level and was beaten again at Evens.

Then he ran in two dreadful races worth only £9,000 together! He won them both, which he should have done.

He then went onto finish second behind Racinger (who he then beat at Ascot), and Racinger has been fairly disappointing in his two starts in England.

Turtle Bowl then was blown away by Manduro (getting beaten 5 lengths) on his last start before showing a HUGE improvement at Royal Ascot, which at the moment does look to be a fluke.

This the Racing Post Analysis of the race of Turtle Bowl after Manduro beat him:

"Turtle Bowl had won another weak Group 1 and his form had been of a much lesser level on softer ground this season. He moved up to track the winner into the straight but could not live with him in the closing stages and just what he achieved in holding off the disappointing Stormy River for second is questionable."



Sure, Turtle Bowl is a consistant horse, and with only six runners in the race on Sunday i expect him to hit the board again, but i wouldn't say he was "constantly overlooked". He just isn't up to good gr1 standard. He is consistant at a lower level of racing.

If Manduro doesn't run to his ability for whatever reason, Turtle Bowl may well pick up the pieces, but i cannot see him beating Manduro.